O.K. writes > I am not sure that Icke would count as a left-wing > nuts - he is also opposed to environmentalism, that's > why the reptilians are green. I, too, would not call Icke left-wing. (But?) he is not opposed to environmentalism as such: >>>>>>>> In terms of the conspiracies, some people talk about how the environmental groups are being manipulated. But, what tends to happen from this perspective is that the environmental people get dubbed as "communists" or "agitators. Environmentalists that I have met are genuine people who want to clean this planet up and leave it a better place than they found it. What we need to say to them is "we respect what you do, but just have a look at the top of the pyramid of the environmental movement, and you will find that all the major people who are screaming about the environment are the same people on a corporate level who are ripping the environment apart." One fellow named Maurice Strong, a Canadian oil millionaire, very close to the Rockefellers, was the first UN environmental agency head and the head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Brazil. I know many genuine people who went to the Earth Summit, and when I explained to them who was running that show, they were stunned, because they were genuine people who were not "street wise". >>>>>>>>> David Icke was of course a professional footballer, then, following injury, a sports writer and commentator, and -- slightly later -- a writer on the environment (or his views would not have received the publicity they did). Has anyone else here seen Icke interviewed on TV? I'd like to know what they thought. Judy Evans jaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -----Original Message----- > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Omar Kusturica > Sent: 23 May 2004 04:31 > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Michael Moore and other 'nutters' > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html