E.Y. By way of learning from each other, I was hoping we could all bring each other up to date on this scandal. M.C. Yeah, right. _____ E.Y. Michael, when not immersed in the classics, tends to think as a partisan hack, and cannot imagine someone wanting to be informed rather than inflamed. If America is the only target on the field, all is well. To question his turf, however, is to have a dangerous agenda, and he attacks. It’s a waste of his acumen and it validates one’s distrust of his fair mindedness. M.C. So Saddam was not an honest man? How shocking. Corruption in private oil companies? Appalling. The UN may have failed to catch this corruption? Once again, big hairy deal. E.Y. The UN “failed to catch it.” Ha-ha! Just as Brutus failed to catch Caesar’s assassination. Just as Richelieu failed to catch the Siege of La Rochelle. Toning down the crimes of Chirac and the UN bureaucrats with such tender language does little to advance your argument, although you might be able to earn some holiday money as a humor writer. _____ M.C. The corruption "propped up" Saddam's regime, that is, enabled it to survive. Well, I guess in order for Saddam to be invaded, he had actually to be in power. . . . . Chirac's alleged corruption . . . contributed *partially* . . . to the *possibility* of an eventual crime. E.Y. Both France and Russia, in exchange for oil booty, contributed to the weakening of the sanctions put in place after Gulf War I. The did this by turning a blind eye to daily piracy and smuggling. They corrupted the UN process for oil contracts and vouchers, and then hid behind the UN process to moralize so as to retain their oil contracts and vouchers. M.C. The corruption "gave Saddam confidence" ........to do what, precisely? To develop a nuclear weapons program, or any other kind of WMD? E.Y. Saddam did all this in the 1990s according to UNSCOM. M.C. Eric sees a foreigner (Didier) attack Bush, which for Eric is equivalent to an attack on the US. So he attempts to relativize Bush's crimes, drawing attention to Chirac's financial peccadilloes in order to imply that Bush isn't really all that bad, because other world leaders also are guilty of misdeeds. E.Y. Baloney! Attack Bush all you want, and I’ll help. I dedicated my original post to Julie, based on her remark that people on Theoria would bite her head off if she broached issues that ran counter to the prevailing prejudices there. Is lit-ideas more just? Everyone who read that dedication can now judge for themselves. I also hoped to learn something new about the scandal, which Michael finally gets around to sharing. M.C. Everybody in Paris knows that Chirac is a crook; they knew that when they voted for him, which they did because the only alternative was the Neanderthal racist Le Pen. Every illiterate ditch-digger in the Hexagone knows that Chirac wants to remain president primarily because the minute he leaves office he will lose his immunity and be locked up forthwith for bribery, evading taxes and God knows what other financial misdeeds. E.Y. Thank you Michael, for at least offering this insight into the choices French voters were faced with. It's closer to what I had hoped to elicit. In the second reply to your post, it may be possible to discuss actual issues rather than trade misconceptions. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html