Say at Christmastide John Locke was basting his chicken. The above subject title might seem appropriate. Some philosophers lend themselves to this treatment and others not. The names Wittgenstein and Heidegger may have been contrived to avoid it. But then perhaps not in German. Kant may have known the English would ridicule him this way but perhaps he was safe in German. It's not a simple topic and Paul's simple comment trivialises it. Donal ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html