[lit-ideas] Lit-Ideas Yes, again...
- From: Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:41:00 EDT
>>Marlena,
>>Your posts have suddenly begun to look like this. Are you doing something
different?
>>Robert
>>RGVhciBKdWR5IChhbmQgYWxsKSwgCgo8d3J5IGxvb2s
Hi,
NO NO...I really meant them to say:
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Actually, I have NO idea what happened. I do hope THIS one goes through...
Happy Friday to all,
Marlena in Missouri
Dear Judy (and all),
<wry look>
>>(I also sent out the list of the board of directors of the
>>Eac Heinz Corp, a bio of Teresa Heinz Kerry, and a press >>release sent
out of her financial status which was made >>available in May 2004.)
>You're persecuting these people! -- and why not?..
Well, the outcome (thus far) has been a few very very angry telephone calls
and a very very upset few emails. (and, of course, it upset me that they got
upset...all I did was respond to what was sent to ME <wry look>)
All of which has not assisted in tempering my temper. <wry look> They send
me similar stuff all the time and it always makes me a bit cross but usually
I just ignore it.
I have very very carefully NOT sent them items which *I* felt were important
(and validated <sigh>) or which made a point and, yet, were a bit tongue in
cheek (and which were actually *true* and could be validated [point by point
if necessary with sources].
But, of course, no apologies for any of what was sent me--or even a "I'm so
sorry--In the future I will not send you such things."....which is what *I*
would have done had I sent them something that tipped them over the edge/or
that they completely had issues with--whether in content or in manner
(okay...True Confession: I just did <wry look>) send them the "resume" that
Steve's
wife sent to him (and which I received from two other sources--so it is
definitely making the rounds <g>...BUT I did add that I tended NOT to forward
to
them such things as that but thought that now I would...or at least would let
them know what they have been spared <g>...though I did point out that all on
the resume was *true* albeit sometimes skewed by a differing perspective...)
The most positive piece came from one who said I should just vote for a
third candidate and simply NOT for the "Hanoi Jane" that Kerry is...<sigh> as
he
made so many lives of Vietnam veets so awful by his protesting...
OUTCOME OF GWB's Visit to LEE'S SUMMIT, MO
I think I said that GWB came to LS (my suburb). He appeared at one of the
high schools during school hours.
The Campaign People required that NO opposition attire be worn during his
visit and that teh visit had to be during school hours. (They also lined up
semi-trucks to block the 300 protestors from being seen from the road, but I
suppose they had police approval for that...and that is a separate issue...)
He also refused to allow question-answers from the students--it was, totally,
a campaign speech and NOT a presidental visit (though he IS a sitting
president...) He paid the school about $12,800 in order to appear...I guess
that
went towards getting the school 'ready' for his visit, though. (actually, it
MIGHT have <wry look> as we here in LS are kind of like that...)
Almost immediately after the visit, though, about 200 people signed a
petition that said they were upset that a non-partisan place such as a school
would
be used for a campaign site. (I would have too had I known about it <g>) A
number of them went to the school board meeting last week.
The school and school board each gave a response that it was an honor to
have a sitting president come speak and that it was a very good/healthy
educational experience for the students, and that they might have handled it
differently had they had more time/notice. (excuse me...?? Who did WHO the
favour??)
Still...the outcome of the meeting was that the LS Schools superintendent
DID say that 'if John Kerry wanted to come to Lee's Summit, he would be
welcome
at one of the school facilities'.'
(By-passing, of course, that the main point was that it ought to have been
set up that way in the first place, that there ought to have been 'free-speech'
in terms of attire, that if it was going to be the 'educational experience'
that the school was theoretically offering, then by inviting BOTH Candidates
(or not letting one do so unless the other did--or had turned it down) and
allowing for a question-answer format, that it was not proper to use such a
facility for such an action, etc. etc., and it COULD have been created in such
a
way that it would then have been a *real* educational experience--could have
pulled in the Kids Voting people [they are 'big' in LS] and really talked
about the process of democracy...)
I don't know how one goes about inviting John Kerry to come to LS, though.
I do seem more signs around town, though. And LOTS of people are still
talking about this ...and kind of cranky. (jnot cross, yet. Just cranky.
There IS
a difference, I believe...)
Anyway, it did prompt me to do what I had been planning on doing (but had
not gotten around to...) The Kerry Campaign person I talked to (She's kind
of
clueless in some arenas, though--though I'm sure she's probably smart--)
said she didn't think they wanted to get involved...though initially they
were
not even aware of this whole controversy (though they WERE aware that GWB had
gone to LS and that the semis had blocked the protestors...)
So, she was not much help in figuring out how to even extend an
invitation...hope one of the other LS peole has a connection elsewhere... Of
course, she
didn't know where LS was [it's one of the bigger KC suburbs, actually, but I
suspect that was because she was from the City <wry look> which ignores the
suburbs...or has been in Jeff City as she has been working 'with Claire
McCaskill--who was MO State Auditor and is now the Dem candidate for governor]
(I have major issues with people who take on metro-wide projects and who do
not actually bother to get to know the areas in which one is supposed to deal
with...<sigh> But, I know that is all about my Steps of Growth and accepting
people as they are. I do wonder, though, at how the people running the Bush
campaign seem to be SO much better/well-organized (is it because they can
afford to pay??--the latest ad is with a guy who is [supposedly] a fire
fighter
from Boston whose taxes have been raised by Kerry and his liberal buddies in
Washington and blah blah. But, the accent is good [probably an actor, right?
or am I cynical?? no...one of Ben's friends has a parent who does such
commercials...<sigh>] but maybe I am just too organized in terms of
cooperative
stuff...or to used to leaving the castle and exploring the village and the
lands surrounding it...)
Nevertheless, the personal outcome for me (maybe the whole school thing and
way it was handled is why the email from my family member affected me as it
did...) was that my son (age 12) and I are now signed up to go volunteer at
the Kerry-Edwards campaign headquarters in the KC area. (We wanted to
immediately get signs but they were out. AAACK. More organization...MOST
people
from MY area will NOT venture forth into the area where the campaign HQ is
located....<sigh> Since they cost $3 a piece, I will go ahead and get about
10
as I don't want to ask people to a) drive to that area (it just won't
happen--I've seen it a million times---no matter HOW strongly they feel about
something. Safety trumps all, you know...<sigh> [good thing we aren't
fighting the
American Revolution TODAY!! <wry look>) But, there is a guy, they said, who
is going to try to get a place in Independence to use as an 'Eastern Jackson
County' HQ. (would be a smart idea--I was given his phone number. They
did NOT take MINE to give to him. In organizational tactics...that is simply
horrific. <sigh> Dang. I'm not a political organizer, but I do know how to
organize things...and I do know people. If I had not gotten cross, *I* would
just be disgusted and try to pretend that it would not matter who became
president OR that it would not matter if I got involved or not. I guess we
can
thank that email AND the visit of GWB who ought not have been allowed in the
school...).
Ben is going to man the phonebank for two hours. (They had a girl about his
size--though she was 10 and he is 12--doing that and he noticed that right
away and went to ask someone on his own if he could do that, too. Of course,
the boy can talk. [I think Julie's daughter can too--too bad she doesn't live
here--there would be this little trio of upset little guys who are kind of
worried about how the world is going to be left to them...and oh, my. You
should see a couple of the letters to the editor of this small local paper--)
Apparently, they have a list of 'undecided' voters and are calling or
canvasing them. (I would, actually, prefer the canvassing as I have to be in
the
right 'mood' to talk on the phone [and then, try to keep me quiet <sigh>)
They asked if I would have a party and let them invite the undecided voters.
Oh, I can have a party <g>. Especially if *I* get to talk...<g> Bet you never
would have guessed from the way I write, would you? <wry look>] (wonder why
I have been SO SO careful to NOT send things to my relatives? I do know how
I can be...)
I did find out that Clay County (north of the River <g>) was won by Gore by
only ONE vote. It and one of the other counties have grown significantly
(we had a meeting here in LibraryLand on Monday where we found out that our
two
northern counties have grown each by approximately 5-8% just in the past
year. SO, it is going to be interesting to see what happens Up North of the
River (as we say here...<g>) The 'good' is that one of the couples whose
wedding I attended (yep, gay, even though they get no benefits--it was a very
sweet ceremony) now live there and so does one of the most undecided couples
that
you would ever meet. And, I think they will end up voting for Kerry...
Thanks for the assistance in some of this--I will probably forward your
post, John, as soon as I figure out how to do so <g>..(NOT that they will read
it...but I guess one never knows...and, who knows...they might forward it to
someone with a 'can you believe what she sent to me' and might make the same
mistake they did in regard to me...
Obviously, .I think I'm still cross and the mad-at-me phone calls have not
alleviated or made me feel bad at all--for I have yet to hear an apology from
them...and the fairness piece in me plus the issue of needing people to check
their facts <sigh> still thinks they opened up the door...so I just walked
in...but maybe that is not nice. (and goodness. I do want to be NICE!)
Likeability factor and all...
Hoping Kerry's people find a cute accent to use in a commercial,
Marlena in Missouri
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