--- Cassidy Dann <cassidy_dann@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: CD> > > That's because Europe by and large simply > doesn't > > > get the > > > diversity/integration equation and we are > streets > > > ahead of them on it. We > > > just can't believe, nor can we accept, by and > large, > > > the sheer blinkeredness > > > of what seems to be the mainstream European > > > reaction. JE> >I don't quite understand this point: the "free > >speech" defence of publishing the cartoons is in > fact > >a very US one. > > Yes, indeed. But (as we have heard in the clamor of > this debate ad nauseum) > something that is a right is not therefore an > obligation. Yes indeed. (And I regret the wording of my reply to Andreas, particularly as I hadn't checked the UK papers.) My sense is that > most of us in the US are clearer (and more > confident) over this distinction > because of our searing hands-on experience in > grappling with the dilemmas of > inter-cultural co-existence. To be honst, that is not my sense (and I know a lot of US First Amendment "fundamentalists"). But as I say that I realise you may be right, and that may be why we (=Europe) have introduced hate speech laws of various kinds. > (I should also clarify that I am not, in this early > evening mood of sweeping > generalization, including Britain in my definition > of Europe. The UK is > closer to us than to the rest of Europe on this > issue, in my view.) We do tend to be between the US and "Europe". But I remain unhappy about your notion that "Europe" "doesn't get" integration: the matter is more complex than that. Judy Evans, Cardiff ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html