[lit-ideas] Re: Lee Harvey Oswald & the Liberal Crack-Up
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 12:08:04 -0700
Irene,
You have a serious problem with logic. Let me illustrate: You argue
a) Eric was a huge proponent of Mylroie's conspiracy theories.
b) Lawrence (all of a sudden - a false statement btw) doesn't like
conspiracies theories,
c) therefore (presumably) Lawrence is being inconsistent.
Rebuttal: Eric and Lawrence are not the same person. I don't recall Eric's
comments about Mylroie so I'll let him respond to them. Nevertheless, I
repeat, I am not Eric and it is not logical of you to insist that I am.
Another problem with your Logic is
a) Mylroie wanted to invade Iraq.
b) You wanted to invade Iraq.
c) Therefore you supported Mylroie's conspiracy theories
This is a logical fallacy. Although it is clearly a fallacy and I don't
want to detract from its fallaciousness, I will add that I never cited
Mylroe's book as reason for invading Iraq. I cited the Clinton CIA expert
on the Middle East, Kenneth Pollack (The Threatening Storm, the Case for
Invading Iraq, as well as Sandra Mackey's The Reckoning, Iraq and the Legacy
of Saddam Hussein.
Did you read the article I posted Irene? How about responding to that?
Lawrence
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 10:25 AM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Lee Harvey Oswald & the Liberal Crack-Up
Lawrence, where were you on Annie Myelroie's conspiracy theories? Eric was
a huge proponent of her book as justifying invading Iraq, and you wanted to
invade as well. Her's was the evidence cited. Now all of a sudden you
don't like conspiracy theories. Also, viewing only one side of the evidence
for invading Iran is tantamount to a conspiracy theory. I wonder that
you're not considered unamerican, luring the U.S. into another cudda wudda
war so it can have its already black and blue butt kicked even harder.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
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Sent: 5/6/2006 1:05:50 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Lee Harvey Oswald & the Liberal Crack-Up
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article.asp?aid=12105047_1
This is another interesting article from the current issue of Commentary.
Since we lived through it, at least I did, we havent realized that not only
do the Conservatives of today hark back to the Liberals of 40 & 50 years
ago, but the Liberals of that time have morphed into something resembling
the Conservatives of those days especially the interest in Conspiracy
Theories. When I first went to work for Douglas in 1959, one of my most
memorable experiences was arguing with a member of the John Birch Society
who regaled me with conspiracy theories and almost turned me in as a
security risk for not accepting them. My contempt for conspiracy theories
arose during that period. But now it is the Left who is enamored of
Conspiracies. James Piereson discusses this interest shift.
Lawrence
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