R. Paul, referring to J. Evans' consideration writes: >You may be thinking of the myth that in Appalachia 'they speak like Shakespeare,' which I heard presented not as >myth but fact many years ago. This incidentally refers to the prejudice Wittgenstein identified regarding the French language in _Philosophical Investigations_ we were discussing earlier on. In the co-edited volume, _Language myths_, (Trudgill/Bauer) the essay on "French is a logical language" is by Anthony Lodge, and "In the Appalachians they speak like Shakespeare" is by Michael Montgomery. An excellent volume on the whole. R. Paul refers to the fact/myth distinction. Montgomery's point, in the later pages of his essay, is that if is a fact that there is an, erm, urban myth about Shakespearean Appalachian, then that very myth may be self-redeeming (or provide its own justification for deeming what is a myth as a fact). The logic of _deeming_ is still largely unexplored, but I'm always reminded of Grice's anecdote that one Oxford college refused to accept a given dog in the premises (on account of a rule that deemed dogs out). As a result of the meeting of the College, however, it was _deemed_ that the dog *was* a cat. Ditto for French being _deemed_ a logical language. Or Appalachian Shakespearen Cheers, JL author of "The Great Redeemer and Other Crucifixion Stories" JL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com