[lit-ideas] Re: LUMBERJACKS and Arabs IN BLACK DRESSES
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:18:42 -0500
Wow, you're good. Merriam Webster says it's a non-libidinal attraction. I
like yours better, given how sex is conflated with everything but the kitchen
sink. Yours is all but a definition of pedophilia, dependence [on the child,
unconsciously the parental figure] combined with needing to overpower [have sex
with] the [safe] source of the pedophile's love [the child, unconsciously the
parental figure]. Where cross dressing comes in, I can't say. Probably
inadequate bonding with a father. It's encouraging that the world is getting
it. Nowhere near enough, but it's beginning to filter down. I was surprised
at how father and girl inferiority was tackled head on by even Bollywood.
People like Koenigsberg are discussing it. On this list, you have a clue.
More than a clue obviously.
That's it. See you tomorrow probably.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Geary
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 11/30/2005 9:18:36 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: LUMBERJACKS and Arabs IN BLACK DRESSES
anaclisis
n : (psychoanalysis) relationship marked by strong dependence on others;
especially a libidinal attachment to e.g. a parental figure
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Amago
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:45 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: LUMBERJACKS and Arabs IN BLACK DRESSES
Anaclisis is not in Merriam Webster online. Anaclitic is. "Of, relating to,
or characterized by the direction of love toward an object (as the mother) that
satisfies nonsexual needs (as hunger)." From Koenigsberg:
"The psychoanalyst Franco Fornari observed that the enemy is experienced as a
"force that destroys our love object." This is why men see war as a duty and
consider war to be "one of the basic human values." Those who make war, Fornari
explains, are not driven by a hate need, but by "a love need." Soldiers are
willing to sacrifice themselves in order to preserve "the common love object.""
[the flag, motherland, fatherland] Take home message: people are love
starved. They take it where they can find it. They're looking for love in all
the wrong places.
In that Bollywood movie I saw (corroborated from other sources), the birth of a
girl is mourned. In India girls are rejected for not being sons. I can't
imagine what that does to sexual identity and sexuality. Arabs are as macho as
Indians and their boys want to be girls. The West is not much different, as
you point out. Not just fraternities, but the military too. And the whole
world rejects age and embraces youth, the last stop of which is pedophilia.
Take fear and combine it with the need for love, and the result is pedophilia.
Pedophilia produces more warped people and the cycle goes on forever.
It's too bad more people don't raise issues such as you've raised, Mike, but
they don't. Obviously these issues cut too close to the bone. Bring on the
jokes. And hail to you Mike, for making these connections.
Main Entry: an·a·clit·ic
Pronunciation: "a-n&-'kli-tik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Greek anaklitos, verbal of anaklinein to lean upon, from ana- +
klinein to lean -- more at LEAN
: of, relating to, or characterized by the direction of love toward an object
(as the mother) that satisfies nonsexual needs (as hunger)
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Geary
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 11/30/2005 12:50:13 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: LUMBERJACKS and Arabs IN BLACK DRESSES
Yes, Julie, your concerns are the concerns of all intelligent people. The
Church's conflating of homosexuality with pedophilia is not only disturbing,
it's an insult to pedophiles everywhere. Having once been accused of being a
"purported" pedophiliac by none other than the gracious David Myers, I feel
qualified to speak for pedophiliacs everywhere. Pedophiliacs are not
necessarily homosexuals nor are homosexuals necessarily pedophiliacs -- no more
so than heterosexuals are. I speak for pedophiles everywhere when I say: give
me your YOUNG -- your males, your females. I need to have my way with people,
but I don't feel adequate enough to deal with adults. I find the naive
sexually attractive in that way.
As for the UAE police -- they've obviously never belonged to any university
fraternities. What would fraternities do without drag fashion shows? Boys
will be girls, as they say. Send the UAE to college! A little learning is a
deranging thing. Along these lines, let me say that I feel so sorry for women
who have so little testosterone that they can only live normal lives. There
should be testosterone supplements for women to take so that they too can
experience the joys of anaclisis.
Mike Geary
Memphis
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