Hi, For anyone who is somewhat well versed in Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals. I'm being plagued by this one aspect of the text that I can't get around and I'm looking for some input. 440-441 (German pagination) Kant discusses the difference between autonomy and heteronomy of the will. Autonomy, he writes, is the "property the will has of being a law to itself". In other words, an autonomous will is one that freely determines itself. In contrast, "if the will seeks the law that is to determine it anywhere else than in the fitness of maxims for its own making of universal law - if therefore in going beyond itself it seeks this law in the character of any of its objects - the result is always heteronomy". In other words, a heteronomous will is one that is determined by some object (end) other than itself. So on the one hand we have an autonomous will, which is a will that determines itself, and on the other hand we have a heteronomous will, a will that is determined by objects (ends). In the case of a heteronomous will, Kant writes, the will "does not give itself the law (as is the case with the autonomous will - my insert), but the object does so in virtue of its relation to the will". Now here is what I don't understand in this formulation: Under this formulation it appears as if the autonomous will, the will that "gives itself the law" is the "moral will". For, of course, according to Kant the first rule of morality is that an action must be a categorical, not a hypothetical imperative, therefore the action must be done as an end in itself and not as a means to an end, thus it must give the law to itself and cannot be determined by objects (ends). As the moral will is not determined by any object (end) towards which it acts, the moral will is therefore considered to be the "free" will. As Kant writes at 447, "Thus a free will and a will under moral laws are one and the same". Again, at 453, he writes "We now see that when we think of ourselves as free, we transfer ourselves into the intelligible world as members and recognize the autonomy of the will together with its consequence - morality". Kant then writes at 455 that: "This better person he believes himself to be when he transfers himself to the standpoint of a member of the intelligible world. He is involuntarily contrained to do so by the Idea of freedom - that is, of not being dependent on determination but causes in the sensible world; and from this standpoint he is conscious of posessing a good will which, on his own admission constitutes the law for the bad will belonging to him as a member of the sensible world". So, my question is this: If a free will is one that gives itself the law as opposed to being determined by an object (end) in virtue of its relation to the will, and the free will is therefore a necessarily moral will", wouldn't it be the case that a will that is determined by an object (end) and is therefore not a moral will is also NOT FREE? And if a will that is not moral is also not free, then how can any one be expected to take responsibility for acts that are not moral? Stupid question maybe, but clearly I'm misunderstanding something here. Erin Toronto ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html