Cossack Plumber. Now that takes a smiley face. I meant Joe the Cossack Cowboy. Or I suppose Ivan the Cossack Cowboy. I know I know. Cossacks weren't nice people. But there aren't any nice people, or nice peoples, in the world, virtually not a one. Like cowboys, nice people(s) exist only in our mythologies. --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: JOE THE COSSACK PLUMBER To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 5:26 AM Just thought I'd mention that the 'g' in Yevgenie is pronounced like the 'g' in ghost, as in Yevgeny Onegin. Actually Yevgeny Onegin, sorry. A transliteration mistake. The 'ie' seems to make the 'g' sound like the 'g' in Gene. I never actually listened to the opera Yevgeny Onegin. Eric, are you familiar with it? Dark, brooding? In dire need of a frowny face? --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: JOE THE PLUMBER To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 2:31 AM Actually, if you're a real cowboy you're probably a freed slave or out of work soldier from the Civil War looking for work. Or a Russian Cossack immigrant doing horsemanship in NYC or Philadelphia in a Cossack style embroidered shirt. So if you like cowboys you'll have to thank the people at Liberty Island who changed Yevgenie Autryinski into Gene Autry. Okay, never mind, I made him up but it captures the reality of the origin of the cowboy. The real cowboys are long forgotten. There's actually a book I came across once on the myth of the cowboy but it too is long forgotten. If I think of it I'll post it. --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: But if you're a real cowboy, you suck it up and get back on your horse. Mike Geary Memphis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com