[lit-ideas] Re: Israel's Invasion Pretext Under Fire
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
Stan,
Are you perhaps trying the obfuscate the issue ? It's
always interesting to have one's character discussed
in public, but the main point of the article was that
Israel's story about a Hizbollah cross-border
incursion into Israel's territory is dubious at best.
After all it's Israel that has a long history of
violations of Lebanese sovereignty, not the other way
around. This also raises question as to whether Israel
might have deliberately exposed these soldiers in
order to obtain a pre-text for invasion.
O.K.
--- Stan Spiegel <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Oh excuse me, Omar. Simon,.I'm sure, will come on to
> remind me that it
> wasn't Omar who said that. It was Joshua Frank. Omar
> was hiding behind
> Joshua Frank so he wouldn't have to take the hit.
> Makes sense. As a
> strategist, Omar knows how to play the game.
>
> Stan Spiegel
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stan Spiegel" <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:58 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [lit-ideas] Israel's
> Invasion Pretext Under Fire
>
>
> > Omar conveniently cites:
> > "Israeli forces have gone on to kill over 370
> innocent Lebanese civilians
> > (compared to 34 killed on Israel's side) while
> > displacing hundreds of thousands more."
> >
> > As Omar knows, Hezbollah has enmeshed itself into
> the civilian structure
> > of Lebanese life: hides guns and all sorts of
> assault weapons in
> > children's bedrooms and apartment houses. It is
> Hezbollah that recognizes
> > no limits -- and to fight Hezbollah it becomes
> very difficult without
> > hurting some civilians.
> >
> > Listening to self-righteous Omar is exhausting.
> Like George W. Bush, he's
> > continually misrepresenting to make his case.
> Hey, Omar, your tireless
> > support for Hamas and Hezbollah are good
> credentials to run for office.
> > You're wasted as a teacher.
> >
> > You'd be a great guerilla leader. You know how to
> lie with the best of
> > them! Think big!
> >
> > Stan Spiegel
> > Portland, ME
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <politics@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:40 PM
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Israel's Invasion Pretext
> Under Fire
> >
> >
> >> http://www.counterpunch.org/frank07262006.html
> >>
> >> Israel's Invasion Pretext Under Fire
> >>
> >> by JOSHUA FRANK
> >>
> >> As Lebanon continues to be pounded by Israeli
> bombs
> >> and munitions, the justification for Israel's
> invasion
> >> is treading on very thin ice. It has become
> general
> >> knowledge that it was Hezbollah guerillas that
> first
> >> kidnapped two IDF soldiers inside Israel on July
> 12,
> >> prompting an immediate and violent response from
> the
> >> Israeli government, which insists it is acting in
> the
> >> interest of national defense. Israeli forces have
> gone
> >> on to kill over 370 innocent Lebanese civilians
> >> (compared to 34 killed on Israel's side) while
> >> displacing hundreds of thousands more. But
> numerous
> >> reports from international and independent media,
> as
> >> well as the Associated Press, raise questions
> about
> >> Israel's official version of the events that
> sparked
> >> the conflict two weeks ago.
> >>
> >> The original story, as most media tell it, goes
> >> something like this: Hezbollah attacked an
> Israeli
> >> border patrol station, killing six and taking two
> >> soldiers hostage. The incident happened on the
> >> Lebanese/Israel border in Israeli territory. The
> >> alternate version, as explained by several news
> >> outlets, tells a bit of a different tale: These
> >> sources contend that Israel sent a commando force
> into
> >> southern Lebanon and was subsequently attacked by
> >> Hezbollah near the village of Aitaa al-Chaab,
> well
> >> inside Lebanon's southern territory. It was at
> this
> >> point that an Israel tank was struck by Hezbollah
> >> fighters, which resulted in the capture of two
> Israeli
> >> soldiers and the death of six.
> >>
> >> As the AFP reported, "According to the Lebanese
> police
> >> force, the two Israeli soldiers were captured in
> >> Lebanese territory, in the area of Aitaa
> al-Chaab,
> >> near to the border with Israel, where an Israeli
> unit
> >> had penetrated in middle of morning." And the
> French
> >> news site www.VoltaireNet.org reiterated the same
> >> account on June 18, "In a deliberated way,
> [Israel]
> >> sent a commando in the Lebanese back-country to
> Aitaa
> >> al-Chaab. It was attacked by Hezbollah, taking
> two
> >> prisoners."
> >>
> >> The Associated Press departed from the official
> >> version as well. "The militant group Hezbollah
> >> captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes
> Wednesday
> >> across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting
> a
> >> swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground
> forces
> >> into its neighbor to look for them," reported
> Joseph
> >> Panossian for AP on July 12. "The forces were
> trying
> >> to keep the soldiers' captors from moving them
> deeper
> >> into Lebanon, Israeli government officials said
> on
> >> condition of anonymity."
> >>
> >> And the Hindustan Times on July 12 conveyed a
> similar
> >> account:
> >>
> >> "The Lebanese Shi'ite Hezbollah movement
> announced on
> >> Wednesday that its guerrillas have captured two
> >> Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon.
> 'Implementing
> >> our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli
> jails,
> >> our strugglers have captured two Israeli soldiers
> in
> >> southern Lebanon,' a statement by Hezbollah said.
> 'The
> >> two soldiers have already been moved to a safe
> place,'
> >> it added. The Lebanese police said that the two
> >> soldiers were captured as they 'infiltrated' into
> the
> >> town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese
> border."
> >>
> >> Whether factual or not, these alternative
> accounts
> >> should at the very least raise serious questions
> as to
> >> Israel's motives and rationale for bombarding
> Lebanon.
> >>
> >>
> >> MSNBC online first reported that Hezbollah had
> >> captured Israeli soldiers "inside" Lebanon, only
> to
> >> change their story hours later after the Israeli
> >> government gave an official statement to the
> contrary.
> >>
> >> A report from The National Council of Arab
> Americans,
> >> based in Lebanon, also raised suspicion that
> Israel's
> >> official story did not hold water and noted that
> >> Israel had yet to recover the tank that was
> demolished
> >> during the initial attack in question.
> >>
> >> "The Israelis so far have not been able to enter
> Aitaa
> >> al-Chaab to recover the tank that was exploded by
> >> Hezbollah and the bodies of the soldiers that
> were
> >> killed in the original operation (this is a main
> >> indication that the operation did take place on
> >> Lebanese soil, not that in my opinion it would
> ever be
> >> an illegitimate operation, but still the media
> has
> >> been saying that it was inside 'Israel' thus an
> >> aggression first started by Hezbollah)."
> >>
> >> Before independent observers could organize an
> >> investigation of the incident, Israel had already
> >> mounted a grisly offensive against Lebanese
> >> infrastructure and civilians, bombing Beirut's
> >> international airport, along with numerous
> highways
> >> and communication portals. Israel didn't need the
> >> truth of the matter to play out before it invaded
> >> Lebanon. As with the United States' illegitimate
> >> invasion of Iraq, Israel just needed the proper
> media
> >> cover to wage a war with no genuine moral
> impetus.
> >>
> >> Joshua Frank is the author of Left Out! How
> Liberals
> >> Helped Reelect George W. Bush and edits
> >> http://www.BrickBurner.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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