> > I've heard it said that an alcoholic is an egotist with low self-esteem, > who > hides the conflict by intoxication. A lot of people seem to me to fit the bill of egotists with low self-esteem (of course this could be just 'projection' on my part). Getting intoxicated can surely cause grandiose or egotistic behaviour and cause low self-esteem: my understanding was that there is no evidence that alcoholics [itself a loaded term] have any greater psychopathology than the average *once they stop drinking*. This indicates the causal arrow points the other way: excessive drinking causes psychopathology. >Another take is that compulsive > drinking > is a sign of a low-level spiritual quest--hindered by fear of the > implications > of that spiritual quest. Again many people are on some low-level spiritual quest [although some prefer a double]. This 'take' is redolent of the AA model of alcoholism as a spiritual disease. Unfortunately because of AA's anonymity policy, afaik this model and its alternatives have not been tested properly on AA memberships - and there are many funding and control issues that make large-scale research into drinking problems outside of organisations like AA very difficult. As to the exact combination of genetics/environment at work, I do not know of a definitive answer to this re alcoholism or more generally for that matter. If others have one I am all ears. What is true is that excessive alcohol consumption produces tolerance [leading to needing more to get the same 'fix'] and withdrawal [creating craving for more alcohol]. This unavoidable physiological process is a major part of alcohol problems it seems to me, whatever psychological analysis might also be offered. Of course in the West we drank all the time until we got clean water. Those were the days, my friend. > On the other hand, there's something good in what Teemu says. The disease > model of addiction too often serves as a form of social control. Yes, it has its dangers as well as advantages: for example while it may work by causing a fear that without total abstinence one is doomed, if you fall off the wagon you might wrongly think you are doomed. Donal London ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html