I notice you didn't respond to my response. Just to your examples, which I said were good but did not address the basic issue that society is anti-life, exceptions notwithstanding, and certainly there are exceptions. But then, you voted for Bush (a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush), so of course you would think that the government is doing a stellar job. Maybe even in need of downsizing. Also, you say things like "You amaze me" and "A pity [you're so warped]" and then call me haughty. BTW, do you think genocide is a silly concept? I don't think that's what Stan meant, but it is what he said. Kind of puts Ahmadinejad into a bit more of a perspective I think. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Geary To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 9/30/2006 12:23:37 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Irene's experiment... You wrote: > Give me some examples of how society, I think the word is appropriate, > affirms life. I gave you thousands. Society itself is an affirmation of life. That you don't understand that or are too haughty to admit you're wrong is your problem. That there are forces in the world that you believe are inimical to life does not invalidate those life-affirming ones. You remind me of so many of the fundamentalists I've known here in the South who believe that unless something mirrors their own limited concepts of how things should be then it must be evil. A pity. Mike Geary Memphis