[lit-ideas] Re: Iraq & news
- From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:26:03 -0800
Phil,
Any proofs for any of these statements? News stories, statistics, etc?
Please, don't submit anything from Fox News or the White House.
The ball is still in your court. Prove your statements.
yrs,
andreas
www.andreas.com
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From: "Phil Enns" <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Iraq & news
> Andreas Ramos:
>
> "Are the schools open and functioning? Are they better now than under
> Saddam?"
>
> As I understand it, students are on break now. They are also better
> supplied now as they are being supplied with the basic necessities by the
> U.S. One of the complaints I have heard has been that the Bush
> administration is doing a better job of supporting schools in Iraq than in
> the U.S. Also, I understand that one of the concerns with the upcoming
> election is that many of the polling stations will be in schools and Iraqis
> are afraid that militants will do even more damage to schools than they have
> already. In other words, the schools are being built and operating but
> militants have been targeting them and most likely will target them to a
> greater degree in the next few days.
>
> Andreas:
>
> "Are the hospitals open and functioning? Do they have supplies? Are they
> better now than under Saddam?"
>
> As I understand it, many hospitals and clinics have been either built or
> repaired as well as re-stocked. However, many of them are empty because
> militants target the staff or anyone who uses them. In other words, the
> problem in these cases is not the U.S. but the militants, most often
> foreigners, who target Iraqis using educational and health facilities
> supported by the U.S.
>
> Andreas:
>
> "Electricity is intermittant. There was a nation-wide blackout a few days
> ago. You can read the blogs from Iraq and see what it's like for water and
> electricity."
>
> Before the invasion, Saddam ensured that Baghdad had electricity and water
> while neglecting the rest of the country. One of the biggest surprises for
> the Americans was the horrible condition of the infrastructure. They have
> had to literally build the electrical grid up from the ground. The same
> with water. People in Baghdad, used to constant electricity under Saddam,
> may complain, but those outside of Baghdad are finally getting electricity.
>
>
> Andreas:
>
> "At least 300 US civilian contractors have been killed."
>
> A fact that undermines your own argument. These contractors are there to
> rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq. They are being targeted by the
> militants. So, at great human and financial cost, the U.S. government is
> trying to rebuild Iraq but the militants are doing everything they can to
> ensure that Iraq remains in decrepit condition. Only the most rabid
> ideologue would blame the Bush administration for the actions of these
> militants.
>
>
> I note that Andreas doesn't bother making any constructive suggestions for
> improving the lot of Iraqis. If I were more cynical I might think that
> Andreas doesn't give a rat's ass about Iraq and Iraqis, but is only
> interested in bitching about the Bush administration. Since such cynicism
> about people's motives and intentions would be out of place on this list, I
> will give Andreas another opportunity. I wonder what Andreas would have the
> Bush administration do now? What practical concrete steps would Andreas see
> the U.S. take in the next six months?
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Phil Enns
> Toronto, ON
>
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