[lit-ideas] International Colloquim to drop by if in neighbourhood

  • From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:57:31 +0100


22 Y 23 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2014
Coloquio internacional “El legado de Karl Popper (1902-1994): A veinte años de 
su muerte”
www.popper-en-chile.cl
10:00 a 17:45 hrs.
Salón de Actos “Sergio Flores F.”
Facultad de Humanidades, Universidad de Valparaíso
Serrano 546, Valparaíso
PROGRAMA EN: http://www.popper-en-chile.cl/programa/
To commemorate the twentieth anniversary of Karl Popper’s death (September 17, 
1994) the Center for the Study of Science, Technology and Society 
and the Institute of Philosophy, University of Valparaíso, Chile, have 
organized an International Colloquium to remember and reflect on 
Popper’s philosophy, with special emphasis on his political philosophy. 
The main speakers will be Angeles Jimenez (Universidad Complutense de 
Madrid, Spain), David Miller (University of Warwick, UK), Jeremy 
Shearmur (Australian National University) and Carlos Verdugo 
(Universidad de Valparaíso, Chile). The Colloquium will be held on 
September 22-23 at the Faculty of Humanities, Serrano 546, Valparaíso, 
Chile.
Para conmemorar el vigésimo aniversario de la muerte de 
Karl Popper (17 de Septiembre de 1994), el Centro de Estudios sobre 
Ciencia, Tecnología y Sociedad, en conjunto con el Instituto de 
Filosofía de la Universidad de Valparaíso, han organizado un Coloquio 
Internacional para reflexionar sobre la filosofía de Popper, 
especialmente su filosofía política. Los principales conferenciantes 
serán Angeles Jimenez Perona (Universidad Complutense de Madrid, 
España), David Miller (University of Warwick, Reino Unido), Jeremy 
Shearmur (Australian National University) y Carlos Verdugo Serna 
(Universidad de Valparaíso, Chile). El Coloquio se realizará los días 22 y 23 
de Septiembre de 2014, en la Facultad de Humanidades de la 
Universidad de Valparaíso, Serrano 546, Valparaíso, Chile.
Para 
comemorar o vigésimo aniversário da morte de Karl Popper (17 de setembro de 
1994), o Centro para o Estudo da Ciência, Tecnologia e Sociedade e o Instituto 
de Filosofia da Universidade de Valparaíso, Chile, 
organizaram um colóquio internacional para lembrar e refletir sobre a 
filosofia de Popper, com especial ênfase na sua filosofia política. Os 
principais oradores serão Angeles Jimenez (Universidad Complutense de 
Madrid, Espanha), David Miller (University of Warwick, Reino Unido), 
Jeremy Shearmur (Australian National University) e Carlos Verdugo 
(Universidad de Valparaíso, Chile). O Colóquio será realizado em 
setembro 22-23, na Faculdade de Ciências Humanas, Serrano 546, 
Valparaíso, Chile.

PROGRAMA
LUNES 22 DE SEPTIEMBRE

10:00-10:30

Saludo de bienvenida: Decano de la Facultad de Humanidades, Prof. Carlos Martel 
LLano.
Palabras del Coordinador del Coloquio: Prof. Carlos Verdugo Serna, Director del 
Centro de Estudios sobre Ciencia, Tecnología y Sociedad.
10:30-11:30
Conferencia Inaugural: “Errando el blanco. La Historia Desdichada de las 
Críticas 
al Falsacionismo”. David Miller (University of Warwick).
11:30-12:00 Intermedio y Café
12:00-13:30 Discusión y Comentarios
13:30-15 :30 Almuerzo
15:30-16:30
Segunda Conferencia: “Crítica, racionalidad y política. Observaciones sobre el 
legado popperiano”. Angeles Jimenez Perona (Universidad Complutense de 
Madrid).
16:30-17:45 Discusión y Comentarios

MARTES 22 DE SEPTIEMBRE
10:00-11:00
Tercera Conferencia: “Algunos problemas con la concepción de la democracia de 
Popper”. Carlos Verdugo Serna (Universidad de Valparaíso).
11:00-11:30 Intermedio y Café
11:30-12: 30 Discusión y Comentarios
12:30 – 15:00 Almuerzo
15:00-16:00
Conferencia Final: “Popper, Political Philosophy and The Public Sphere”. Jeremy 
Shearmur (Australian National University).
16:00-17:30 Discusión y Comentarios
17:30-17:45 Palabras de Cierre

Organiza:
Centro de Estudios sobre Ciencia, Tecnología y Sociedad
Instituto de Filosofía, Facultad de Humanidades
Universidad de Valparaíso
Auspician y patrocinan:
Universidad de Valparaíso
Convenio de Desempeño
División Académica
División de Investigación
Fundación Jorge Millas
The Karl Popper Charitable Trust


On Tuesday, 9 September 2014, 7:31, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 


Nope friend. Hume has the view that what he calls causation is a sort of 
compulsion, a fact human minds. He is wrong, but that becomes an interpretive 
enterprise. I like (a lot Hume's view) it.
In fact the attempts by many (most famously B. Russell for the English reading 
public, to "get rid" of "effects" etc. come to nothing given the hard case that 
nobody has been able to show what suggests that "global warming has been 
brought about by burning of carbon based fuels" is not a causal claim. His 
bunch of fake "humeans" claim to have "shown" that there is a possible a world, 
nomologically fixed by your semantics, in which global warming is an effect og
a. nothing
b. al Gore
c. paris Hilton
the burden is on the fake humeans, not on those who assign truth values to 
causal claims.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric [mailto:mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 08 September 2014 21:59
To: Adriano Palma
Subject: RE: standard confusions

>> One thing that I suggest to avoid is uninformed idiocy.

I agree. Having read (or maybe you think, misread) Hume, I can only add that 
Hume also insisted that causation was non-empirical. Not only are people's 
motivations complex (Ibsen's onion layers) but causation itself can never be 
precisely located by sense data.

This is why I write about "faith" or "imaginative reconstruction."

Best to you,
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Adriano Palma [mailto:Palma@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:34 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Omar Kusturica
Subject: standard confusions


If people were to get Hume right....... it would be a "nice day" as the yanks 
say.
CERTAINLY one can reach any practical judgment in any theoretical way. For 
those of the generation www one can devote some time to set up a programm run 
by Cohen of the nyt and let the machine crank up any judgment, practical, 
scientific, philosophical, financial, private life advisory, or anything one 
likes.
Hume the great man saw quite distinctly that any judgment if it has to "bring 
about" acts has components that are "contents of beliefs" and motivational 
structures much harder to pin down.
That is why I can be perfectly convinced, say by M Gandhi, that I should "turn 
the second cheek" or some such, and thereby concurrently smack the face of the 
English policeman with a cosh.


One thing that I suggest to avoid is uninformed idiocy.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Walter C. Okshevsky
Sent: 04 September 2014 21:16
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Omar Kusturica
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Moral Distinctions Not deriv'd from Reason

Just a couple of Kantian thoughts from the dacha:

There are technical, prudential, etc, meanings of "right" and "wrong." However, 
to speak of *moral* right or wrong is to speak either of obligation (ought) or 
permissibility in moral terms. What is morally right is either obligatory or 
permitted. What is morally wrong is either morally forbidden or morally 
impermissible. 

So, yes, I would think that if you claim that action or maxim P is right, you 
may only be claiming that P is morally permissible but not obligatory (i.e., 
ought to be done). 

I agree that it is possible to do moral wrong (though not intentionally).  But 
I don't see how that fact connects up with our discussion.

If you claim that something is right "in theoretical terms" only, you are not 
making a moral (practical judgement). There is no "simply theoretical" when it 
comes to practical judgement. I guess that's how it got it's name.

Walter O
MUN 


Quoting Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>:

> However, moral discussions can also proceed in terms of what is right 
> or wrong without necessarily passing to 'ought,' can they not ? I can 
> argue that something is right in theoretical terms without necessarily 
> commanding that it ought to be done. (It is possible to do wrong, or 
> not do what is right, after all.)
> 
> O.K.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for 
> DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > My last post today. The passage analysed by Pigden is as per below.  
> > From Hume's pen:
> >
> >
> > ‘Moral Distinctions Not deriv’d from Reason’.
> >
> > In those days, philosophers felt like ENTITLING things and sections. 
> > But the title is not relevant. What is relevant is the content of the 
> > section:
> >
> > Hume writes:
> >
> >
> > "In every system of morality, which I have hitherto met with, I have
> always
> >  remark’d, that the author proceeds for some time in the ordinary 
> > way of reasoning, and establishes the being of a God, or makes 
> > observations concerning  human affairs; when of a sudden I am 
> > surpriz’d to find, that instead of the  usual copulations of 
> > propositions, is, and is not, I meet with no proposition  that is 
> > not connected with an ought, or an ought not. This change is 
> > imperceptible"
> >
> > This seems hyperbolic, since HE perceived it, and so do I. So he 
> > means
> that
> >  the change is _subtle_ rather. He ought to use words more precisely!
> >
> > Hume (or "Home", as the original spelling went) goes on:
> >
> > "; but is, however, of the last consequence. For as this ought, or 
> > ought not, expresses some new relation or affirmation,’tis 
> > necessary that it shou’ d be  observ’d and explain’d; and at 
> > the same time that a reason should
> be
> > given, for  what seems altogether inconceivable, how this new 
> > relation can be a deduction  from others, which are entirely 
> > different from it … [I]
> am
> > persuaded, that a  small attention [to this point] wou’d subvert 
> > all the vulgar systems of  morality, and let us see, that the 
> > distinction of vice and virtue is not founded  merely on the 
> > relations of objects, nor is perceiv’d by reason."
> >
> > I think that von Wright and H. Paul Grice would use an 'alethic' 
> > operator here (unknown to Hume):
> >
> > Ë«p
> >
> > We then oppose this assertion sign (which is in fact a double sign, 
> > 'affirmation' and 'judgement') to an 'imperative' sign (which would 
> > comprise the cases that Hume perceived -- though he deemed
> > imperceptible) of an 'is'
> > turning  into an 'ought to':
> >
> > !p
> >
> > Hume: "that instead of the usual copulations of propositions, is, 
> > and is not, I meet with no proposition that is not connected with an 
> > ought, or an ought  not."
> >
> > Hume mentions: discussions of God -- natural theology, say -- or 
> > philosophical theology, as opposed to dogmatic theology of this or 
> > that religion.
> > And then he mentions 'vice' and 'virtue' and 'human affairs'.
> >
> > I agree with Pigden that the issue is very complex!
> >
> > Hume speaks of 'copulation'. He means 'copula', as in
> >
> > The S is P.
> >
> > versus
> >
> > The S OUGHT TO BE P.
> >
> > Where 'ought to be' is another copulation or copula. An 'imperative'
> > copulation, as it were, and not an assertoric copulation involved in 
> > the Frege sign.
> >
> > Since 'virtue' (not to mention 'God') seems like a value- or 
> > ought-laden expression, it's not surprising that an author (such as 
> > Hume criticises) would  use, to vary the prose, an 'is' here, and an 
> > 'ought' there, because he would  rely on his addressee to understand 
> > that he is staying in the realm of 'morality'.
> >
> > The title to the section refers to Hume's fork or 'law' (which 
> > admittedly sounds rather grand, as Pigden notes). But while Hume 
> > woke Kant up from
> his
> > dogmatic slumber, Kant was courageous enough to, following 
> > Aristotle, assert  strongly that THERE is such a thing as the place 
> > of reason in ethics!
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Oddly, Witters once got very offended when he found out that Toulmin 
> > had borrowed all his ideas from him on this very issue! (*)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Speranza
> >
> > *. The title of Toulmin's dissertation at Cantab. is "The place of 
> > reason in ethics", later turned, typically, into a hardcover book!
> >
> >
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