--- by which logic, perhaps, the converse -- an Englished Italian should be some sort of an angel - Un italiano inglesato È un angelo consacrato. In a message dated 2/2/2013 11:08:52 P.M. UTC-02, profdritchie@xxxxxxxxx writes in "Re: Afternoon song" they're not merely referring to the Englishness of the English, but their devilry. --- which is their italianità? Un inglese italianato È un diavolo incarnato Oddly, and back to R. Paul's original ditty, I was amused to learn at the Oxford Centre for Great War Studies of the slightly scatological parody: Rule Britannia, Marmalade or jam, Chinese firecrackers up your *rs*hole Bam bam bam. -- or something. which I hardly see as _Italian_ *yet* devilish. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html