In a message dated 3/26/2006 4:16:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: No benefits, but also no taxes. $400-700 per week, maybe $2,000 per month. Hi, Wonder how many of them have kids who are in the system -- using the taxes of Others -- for things like free-reduced lunches, free-reduced childcare, etc. In Kansas, if you are an illegal immigrant, you can attend college there and not pay out of state tuition. I live right across the border--if my son decides to attend a decent vet school or architectural school and keep the costs down by commuting--he'd have to pay out-of-state tuition. Too bad we cannot pretend that he's an illegal immigrant. (Children of legal immigrants are in the same situation as my son--in my area, most of them are not happy with the issue of illegal immigrants. Many of them spent a lot of time and effort getting here legally--and are law-abiding citizens) The fairness piece in my would have an easier time of them not paying taxes if they were not being picked up on highways which are being paid for by taxes...and if they absolutely were not using ANY social or human services for their kids, etc. But, they are. NOT willing to pay even a little bit?? But, I do. And, no--I bet that the only reason it is 'the going rate' is because those companies are hiring off the books--and socking away the profits for themselves--not caretaking their employees. Too bad the union world in California is not living--but maybe the illegal immigrants would be the 'scabs' anyway, right? Not caring for anyone but themselves? Taking taking taking--using our roads, using the water system (paid for by taxes in CA like here, right?), etc etc. The fairness piece in me screams at this nasty attitude--do they laugh while they drink the water, I wonder? Scorning those of us who pay our taxes, believe in paying for schools for their kids, and giving to the charities and helping as volunteers to the government services which are assisting them in finding semi-decent conditions? What do your friends do, Andreas? Are they laughing at the law-abiding citizens? Do they even care that they are takers? Do they want, someday at least, to be the ones who are caring? Best, Marlena wishing all would care for Others--even that the takes would appreciate the Givers and want to do the same someday...