In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:36:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: How did a city in the South ever become the number one Sin City in the the USA -- much more so than Las Vegas, I think. NO 's sin was recognized as sin, LV decided to call it fun. Hi, My conference, set for November, was to be in New Orleans. The location is now in Las Vegas. I'm guessing that the conference planners really wanted sin but are willing to take fun. I'd been to NO several times--and it was not ever a place that I thought that I would ever go to or, when I had to go there the first time, that I thought I would like. But, I did--and esp the first few times <g> -- was not interested in the 'sin' part at all. But--there was SO much more to New Orleans for people like me than the 'sin' parts! There really was a 'magic' that was there--and so much to see and do. I've been to LV twice--I suppose it was okay (my parents liked it because they said it was like entering an unreal sort of place). Okay the first time was a weird trip (I call it my metaphysical trip in the non-philosophical manner of metaphysical studies <g> as I met three men and three women who each had a part of changing my life completely.) and the second was when I won a trip from girlgeeks.com and got to go to Comdex. I took a friend of mine who was starting a company and we had a grand time in terms of the Comdex conference. I was not too interested in the gambling so while she did that, I amused myself by asking the different people who worked there how they handled knowing that there were lives ruined by gambling, etc. <g> (I'd probably read some stats somewhere ... the casinos here are expanding and my intern I had this summer who thinks that I need to leave Libraryland and make real money in marketing was impressed with how much they were offering their marketing people. I had to really go deep into that weird psychoanalysis stuff that Phil doesn't think is worth anything in order to decide if I could handle working at a casino or not. At LV, they obviously had the cameras on me--every time I was digging deeper into whoever I was talking to, their managers would come up and I'd ask them the same question. Pretty soon it was kind of strange and my friend even noticed and told me that we'd probably get kicked out if I didn't stop asking people questions. (they gave very interesting answers, though, and I was bored and it was kind of fun in weird glad-Phil-doesn't-believe-in-psychoanalysis-sort of way) She did start winning shortly thereafter and that kind of stopped me 'cause I started watching her win. But, I was would have really preferred NO over LV. I'm not really looking forward to the trip, now. Well, the conference will be interesting and I do get a lot out of it that is good information and very practical. Otherwise, I'd probably skip it. I suppose when I want 'real' fake, I would prefer to go to la-la-land in a book. NO was not fake--it might have been 'sinful', but it was not fake. I think Mike that it is true that it will not be rebuilt as a haven for the artsy or the 'different' or the creative souls. I think it will end up being more like LV but not even as fake...for they will try and fail to be what they were ... and not even try to be something new. still wondering what books you are putting in your survival bags, Marlena in Missouri