[lit-ideas] Re: Honor/Playing Fields

  • From: David Ritchie <ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:09:58 -0800

On Jan 10, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Andreas Ramos wrote:


The Battle of Waterloo was fought in the playing fields of Eton.


I don't know if others have already pointed this out: when Wellington was at Eton, there were no playing fields. In fact, there were no sports at all. That came later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eton_College



Andreas is right. Here are further details of how the famous mis- quotation came into existence:

http://books.google.com/books?id=NCOEYJ0q- DUC&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=playing+fields+of +eton&source=web&ots=hAKtOGvVHF&sig=n8mecsDY_E2QtJF_lV- It5LXdTM#PPA129,M1

Like funerals, English public schools tried on a variety of shapes and forms before they devolved into the Victorian things they appear to be today. If you are interested in their history you might try David Newsome, "Godliness and Good Learning" or John Chandos, "Boys Together."

But if your aim is understanding the real people of Wellington's army and knowing exactly what they meant by honour and so on, you can't do better than my latest find, Ian Fletcher (ed.), "Voices from the Peninsula; Eyewitness Accounts by Soldiers of Wellington's Army 1808-1814"

David Ritchie,
Portland, Oregon

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