Harold wrote: Looks like a tie. Europae Speculum was also published in 1605. I have no idea why the OED gives the date of the quotation as 1599, but the editors/readers were probably working from a 1632 reprint. ------------------ By no means a tie. It's Sandys first, the rest nowhere. The attribution to Cervantes locates the expression in Book II of El Quijote. Book II wasn't published until 1616. In light of JL's research, I'd guess that the English translator copped the expression from Europae Speculum, and that the translation of DQ was much more widely disseminated than was Sandy's work, misleading dozens of quotation-compilers down through the years. Robert Paul Reed College ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html