Phil:And I am sure that Veronica would not toss such accusations around without facts to back them up. You are correct. I would not do such a thing. I sent two links. The first one was the effort by some people to remove Hezbollah from the list of acceptable organizations in Canada. If you read that, then you know that there was great reluctance on the part of various officials to remove it and finally did so, except for the charities. It was at that point that B'nai B'rith went to a court and asked that the charities be removed as well, in that it was impossible to determine whether funds were going to human needs or terrorism. The time line shows that the court suit was initiated by BB in late November. And as you say, Hezbollah was put on the list you cite on Dec. 11th, both these periods in 2002. If you now expect me to prove that it was the officials and not the court suit that caused the change, I can't do that because I don't know what was in everyone's head. And neither do you. Nor do either of us know what if any type of negotiations went on behind the scenes that created the result. I am sorry that you are determined to believe that I am prejudiced. I am also sorry that I did not make myself more clear in regard to calling Canada a great country in the way I did. I believe you might have taken that as sarcasm. It was not. A few months ago my family explored the possibility of emigrating from here to Canada. There was a discussion about this on the list. It turned out to be impossible, due to issues relating to immigration rules in Canada and health care issues in the US. Veronica > [Original Message] > From: Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2/6/2006 11:44:36 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Hezbollah > > Veronica Caley wrote: > > "You went to a site and found out that Hezbollah is no longer acceptable > in Canada. As you can see above, I said it was acceptable until..... > etc. " > > No, what I did was show that Canada has, since 11 December, 2002, > considered Hezbollah a terrorist organization. Veronica's prejudice is > to claim that before then, Canada considered Hezbollah acceptable, and > that it is on the list only because a Jewish group spoke up. What > Veronica needs to show is evidence that Canada, in some official form, > accepted Hezbollah before that date. Perhaps Veronica could point us > towards some awards or such that the Canadian government bestowed on > Hezbollah functionaries? Also, the 'Entities List' is not a whimsical > roll that is added to because some pressure group speaks up. Perhaps > Veronica could point us towards the evidence for lobbying pressure? I > look forward to whatever facts Veronica might provide us, since as a > Canadian I have something at stake in such claims. And I am sure that > Veronica would not toss such accusations around without facts to back > them up. > > > Sincerely, > > Phil Enns > Toronto, ON > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html