Geary declined, but I think the moment that provoked the undescribable consternation was: from wiki (below). I assume the simile with Xerxes is a fine one? I just don't know. What we want to know, us foreigners, if it was a _good_ thing or a _bad_ thing (alla Sellars/Yeatman). I notice that it's Rodrigo Santoro who plays Xerxes in "300". Why is it that they give stereotypical roles to Latinos? He played an oligophrenic hunk in "Love, Actually", and I like him, but he shouldn't have shaved his balls, as apparently he did, to get the part. His English is pretty broken, and there is an interview to him, in as I recall, Rotten Tomatoes, where he expands on Xerxes. He says he read Herodotus to get some inspiration, and was motivated by the 'round' character that he had to display. He tried, he says, not to make it too unidimensional -- as apparently Butler playing Leonidas is, as critics in Greece saw. The film was boycotted by Iran, as saying that it promotes gratuitous clash of civilisations (sic). And the professor of Greek at Cambridge that they used for pronunciation -- and who apparently has written books on Sparta -- could not get the implicature of Leonidas: "We won't be less than THOSE boy-loving Athenians" -- which in my opinion does not necessarily ENTAIL that Spartans hate boys. Cheers, JL Speranza Civilisation-Clasher, but otherwise harmless "At his inauguration on March 4, 1861, the German American Turners formed Lincoln's bodyguard; and a sizable garrison of federal troops was also present, ready to protect the capital from Confederate invasion and local insurrection. In his First Inaugural Address, Lincoln declared, "I hold that in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual. Perpetuity is implied, if not expressed, in the fundamental law of all national governments," arguing further that the purpose of the United States Constitution was "to form a more perfect union" than the Articles of Confederation which were explicitly perpetual, thus the Constitution too was perpetual. He asked rhetorically that even were the Constitution a simple contract, would it not require the agreement of all parties to rescind it? Also in his inaugural address, in a final attempt to reunite the states and prevent the looming war, Lincoln supported the pending Corwin Amendment to the Constitution, which had already passed Congress. This amendment, which explicitly protected slavery in those states in which it existed, was designed to appeal not to the Confederacy but to the critical border states. At the same time, Lincoln adamantly opposed the Crittenden Compromise, which would have permitted slavery in the territories. Despite support for the Crittenden compromise among some prominent Republicans (including William Seward), Lincoln denounced it saying that it "would amount to a perpetual covenant of war against every people, tribe, and state owning a foot of land between here and Tierra del Fuego." ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com