[lit-ideas] Re: Hartiana

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:15:37 +0100

Perhaps we can explore what Grice might have had in mind.

*Perhaps not.

O.K.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for
DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In a message dated 3/22/2015 10:34:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> "on Grice's own stated premise that philosophy is  entire"
>
> Perhaps we can explore what Grice might have had in mind.
>
> Philosophy, like virtue, is entire.
>
> What about legal philosophy?
>
> How does legal philosophy fit in the "latitudinal" 'unity' of  philosophy?
>
> This is a very tricky question since there are many complications among,
> for example, Hart's separability thesis between morality and legality. So
> we
> cannot, without argument, simply statte that legal philosophy is a branch
> of  moral philosophy (or ethics), because it is not! And we cannot
> similarly
> say  that legal philosophy is a branch of political philosophy, because it
> is not. So perhaps Grice would have a trichotomy here:
>
>
> ------------------------- A. theoretical philosophy
> First Philosophy
> -------------------------- B. practical philosophy:
> ----------------------------------comprising
> -----------------------------------------i. ethics or moral  philosophy.
> -----------------------------------------ii. political philosophy.
> -----------------------------------------iii. legal philosophy.
>
> And the point would be to explore which are are the concepts which are
> _common_ to these three branches of practical philosophy.
>
> A second point would be to discuss whether H. L. A. Hart (who was Grice's
> senior) would AGREE with any Griceian consideration on the specific locus
> of
>  'legal philosophy' within philosophical studies at large.
>
> A third point would be to connect legal philosophy ultimately with the
> source of it all, first philosphy.
>
> Where are the first principles of First Philosophy to come from, if not
> from the operation, practised by the emblematic pelican, of lacerating its
> own
>  breast?
>
> And how do these first principles play a role in legal philosophy of the
> type H. L. A. practiced?
>
> If this sounds too extravagant, we may merely require a COMMON
> methodological approach to all branches of philosophy, which for Grice and
> Hart  was
> 'linguistic botany' ("if you heard of it," Geary adds, with a biscuit
> conditional*).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Speranza
>
> * J. L. Austin's biscuit conditional: "If you are hungry, there are
> biscuits in the cupboard."
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