Thanks Mike. Let me celebrate the end of this year with you with this speculation. I heard a reference that 30,000 had been killed during the construction of the Panama Canal. Given our current abhorrence of any loss of life whatsoever, I wondered how Americans tolerated this at the time. I subsequently learned that 20,000 of them had been French, lost during the first attempt. Another reference said Americans had lost more than 6,000. Perhaps there were some more lost that were neither French nor American that bulk the number up to 30,000. I don't know, but I wonder if modern Americans would tolerate the building of a Panama Canal at such a cost today. 6,000 Americans for a stupid old canal that benefits businessmen who want to send their shipping through the canal to reduce shipping time and increase profits? No way! Or maybe you see that differently. Of course we don't' need a canal today, but if we needed (or wanted) something comparable, say a colony on the Moon or Mars that would cost 6,000 lives, would modern Americans go for it? And a special thought for Irene to suit her ongoing mood. I have found just the religion for her: Archeologists have deciphered the Mayan language and religious calendar and have determined that the end of the world, the date on which the world and all life will be destroyed is December 21, 2012. Various religious things were done throughout the Mayan Calendar year; such as removing the hearts of sacrifices and presenting them to the Mayan Gods; which I'm sure wouldn't appeal to Irene, but there is nothing to prevent her being eclectic about her beliefs - eclecticism is quite common in other religions as well. Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:06 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Happy New Year! OK, I'm leaving now and won't be back until next year. Just wanted to wish you all best wishes for the coming year. I like this list a whole lot. I thank you all for your participation. The perspectives I can't get here in Memphis are very meaningful to me. A special thanks to Lawrence and Brian, without them who would I insult? (joke, guys, I truly do enjoy your contributions, without you, there'd be very little conversation, just chit chat about chit. My resolution for the coming year is to not send any drunk posts and to track down Mike Chase, JL, Carol K, Veronica Calley and the real Irene Cassidy. Keep faith, y'all. Mike Geary Meumphus