If it wasn't a second brood, it could have been guarding something else, perhaps a half-eaten rabbit, but Sage would have gone after that if it was on the ground. She is an excellent scavenger. Someone sent me a video of an owl coming in for the kill: http://www.dogwork.com/owfo8/ The Crow or Raven darting at Sage didn't look like it was doing that. It was more of a close pass than a serious coming in for the kill. I'm sure that whatever the owl was going after weighed much less than my 90-pound Sage. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Ritchie Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:37 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Halloween & the crow On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Lawrence Helm wrote: I can't imagine any sort of bird seriously attacking her, and since this is the behavior of a bird protecting eggs or young, I suspect crow eggs or young to have been nearby, but unless they were on the ground Sage would have been no threat to them. I thought, "surely that's an odd time of year for young." And, "maybe it was a raven." But some crows have a second brood and there are no ravens near you: http://icwdm.org/handbook/birds/AmericanCrows.asp http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/crowfaq.htm David Ritchie, not understanding quite how Browns and Colts resulted in Ravens, Portland, Oregon