In a message dated 9/29/2004 1:40:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, pas@xxxxxxxx writes: 2) Did Grice invent HP sauce? (ambiguity warning) Or did he just imply it? ---- Actually, there might be a connection. I read (link 1 below) that "HP sauce" was invented in 1903, in Birmingham ("HP", short for "Houses of Parliament", London). Now, H. P. Grice was born in Birmingham (link 2), so it may be related --. Cheers JL _Definition of HP Sauce - wordIQ Dictionary & Encyclopedia_ (http://www.wordiq.com/definition/HP_Sauce) HP Sauce. HP Sauce. HP Sauce is a popular brown sauce produced in Aston, Birmingham, England. ... FG Garton's Sauce Manufacturing began to market HP Sauce in 1903. ... www.wordiq.com/definition/HP_Sauce - 12k - _Cached_ (http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:yjqphaOBSS0J:www.wordiq.com/definition/HP_Sauce+"HP+sauce"&hl=en&i e=UTF-8) - _Similar pages_ (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=related:www.wordiq.com/definition/HP_Sauce) _http://www.litencyc.com/php/speople.php?rec=true&UID=1880_ (http://www.litencyc.com/php/speople.php?rec=true&UID=1880) "Grice was born on 15th March 1913 in Birmingham. His father Herbert owned an initially successful business manufacturing small metal components. When this began to fail after the First World War, he retired from business and devoted himself to playing the â??cello. Griceâ??s mother, Mabel (née Felton) took in paying pupils and educated them, along with her own two sons, in the family home. After this somewhat unorthodox beginning, Grice received a conventional privileged education, first at Clifton College in Bristol and then at Corpus Christi College, Oxford. He read â??Greatsâ??, a four-year degree programme combining the study of classics with philosophy, and graduated with First Class Honours. He spent a year teaching classics at Rossall, a public school in Lancashire, before returning to Oxford, first as a postgraduate student at Merton College and then as a lecturer in philosophy at St. Johnâ??s College. He was elected to a Fellowship at St. Johnâ??s in 1939, but almost immediately left Oxford for war service. He was commissioned lieutenant in the Navy, initially being posted on active service in the North Atlantic and then, from March 1942 in Navy Intelligence at the Admiralty." ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html