[lit-ideas] Re: Gun Rights as seen from NYC
- From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT)
The gun lobbies lobby the State too, big time. Likewise all the polluters
write their own laws. Literally, industry writes its own laws. We have
corporate socialism. We privatize profits, socialize losses, i.e., the
taxpayers pay for corporate losses. Just look at what's happening with Wall
Street. This need for guns is part of the paranoia that's rampant in this
country. As far as looking at evidence, that's exactly what neocons don't do.
Their mainstay is using fear based mythology to lead the populace around
like bunch of scared children. That's actually very Stalinist, keep them
scared and off balance and they'll obey. So our Communism hating selves have
actually embraced the spirit of Soviet Communism. And we're too busy
consuming to notice...
--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Gun Rights as seen from NYC
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 8:58 PM
>>My point of view is probably different from yours. Take the M79
rocket launcher. You probably think it wouldn't be okay for the
ordinary citizen to own one unless the State gave permission.
Actually I agree with you in many issues that relate to the power of the
State. However, I also include corporate power (insurance companies, for
example) as part of the State, since they are constantly bribing
legislatures to get the laws they want.
>>First of all, agree that the right to bear arms is a legitimate
right; then we can talk about the details.
It is a right for noncriminal, mentally healthy citizens of the
appropriate age and ability. No question.
By writing that "gun control" is a distraction issue, I mean that we
probably shouldn't even be debating it as a risk factor. It distracts us
from other more deadly risk issues like toxic waste dumping, poor
follow-through and enforcement of existing environmental regulations,
and state and local corruption.
For example, in sections of northern Kentucky, the average IQ of public
school children is between 50 and 75. How's that for risk! That same
area is also a site of rampant mercury and benzene emissions, and the
state itself is known as the most corrupt in the nation. We should
debate what to do there; how to enforce existing regulations and get
those crooks into orange jumpsuits. Instead we debate whether corrupt
legislatures have the right to take away somebody's AR-15.
Eric
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