________________________________ From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> >When I, rather presumptuously, used 'uninterestingly' to refer to what Popper did to Frege's realms (Frege's 'third realm' becomes Popper's "world 3", but Frege's first realm becomes Popper's "world 2") I was being facetious. For, interestingly, indeed Frege's numbering reflects some sort of empiricism (psychologism, even) on his part.> Surely more facetious comment is that Popper is a surprising advocate for the Third Reich or that Sting's "One World (Not Three)" is as decisive a refutation of Popper's W123 theory as might be conceived using the forces of bleached blonde hair, white reggae and a mild rock backbeat. >While this may have to do little with Grice's Realm, my point was indeed that Frege's three realms (or Popper's three worlds for that matter) eventually subsume, under a 'naturalistic' scheme like Grice into "one" -- the one and only realm, which I call Grice's realm.> This keeps coming up - Popper is not saying there are three universes: his "Worlds" terminology is more akin to when we speak of the world of art or the world of science or of politics or of music or of fashion - or the world of thoughts as opposed to world of sensations, or the world of mind as opposed to the world of matter. The three Worlds are levels or realms within one universe, as is indicated by the fact they interact within that one universe. But there are levels within these levels/realms and the terminology of Worlds is meant to bring out that there is something of a seismic development when we move, albeit perhaps gradually, from one such World to another. [Albeit, the development of life from non-living matter within World 1 is also a seismic development.] Donal