[lit-ideas] Re: Grice's Locus Classicus
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:06:36 +0100
It may be a category mistake to insist that 'locus' applies to
psychological (w2) and abstract (w3) items, but one can learn from one's
mistakes!
*If the notion of locus is not applicable to minds, then indeed a question
arises how we distinguish one mind from another. It seems to me - or at
least I hope I so - that my mind is distinguishable from JL's by virtue of
the fact that it contains thoughts (such as this one) that JL's obviously
does not.
Cheers,
O.K.
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for
DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In a message dated 1/27/2015 8:27:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes in "Popper's trialism": "Actually the mind is
> permitted
> (since it cannot help it) to have a temporal dimension; the thoughts I am
> having are now are different from the thoughts I had an hour ago, and
> different from the ones I will have in another hour, etc. The mind
> obviously
> exists in time, it is space that is a big no-no for it if one wishes to
> maintain
> that it is separate from the physical. About knowledge (Popper's W3), does
> geographical knowledge have anything to with space ? Or does historical or
> musical knowledge have anything to do with time ? Just askin'."
>
> Indeed.
>
> So perhaps we should restrict to 'location', or McEvoy's use of 'location'
> (in his writings on toothaches in dogs and humans).
>
> I would think the classical term is 'locus' -- where the 'classicus' is
> just for decorative reasons.
>
> It may be a category mistake to insist that 'locus' applies to
> psychological (w2) and abstract (w3) items, but one can learn from one's
> mistakes!
>
> How classical philosophy distinguished between 'locus' and 'spatium' is yet
> a different, if related question.
>
> I should not be surprised if both 'locus' and 'spatium' can be used
> figuratively to apply to w2 and w3 items.
>
> Cfr. Short/Lewis, Latin Dictionary:
>
> spătĭum , ii, n. root spa-, to draw; Gr. σπάω; span-, to stretch; Gr.
> σπάνις, want; cf.: πένομαι, πένης; Germ. spannen; Dor. σπάδιον (=
> στάδιον), race-course; cf. Lat. penuria.
>
> Of a portion of time in which to do any thing, space, time, leisure,
> opportunity: “neque, ut celari posset, tempus spatium ullum dabat,” Ter.
> Hec. 3,
> 3, 14: "nisi tempus et spatium datum sit".
>
> Cheers,
>
> Speranza
>
> Refs.:
>
> Grice, "Can I have a pain in my tail'.
> KEYWORD: LOCATION, PAIN
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