[lit-ideas] Re: Grice to the Mill

  • From: palma <palma@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:01:57 -0400 (EDT)


how stupid are you?
if x is 76 there is no implicature that x is 1 whether or not 76 >1

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote:

Joan Rivers and Gricean Cardinality (Was: Bert Bultinck)

In a message dated 6/22/2009 12:07:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pastone@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Actually, Joan Rivers turned 76 a couple of weeks  ago.
So, she's 75, 74, 73 etc.
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Exactly.

But do.

Any of ye, listers: try and report back.

Mention Joan Rivers in conversation, and then drop, casually, 'and she is
sixty-seven' (or something). People will _scream_ at you. I find it's the
best  intro to Grice (or rather to see how Un-Gricean who you thought your
friends  were can be.

They'll go, "She's not".

Then do try to explain,

"Okay; if you are right, and she is older; that doesn't disprove that she
is, logically, also 67, as I said she was".

R. Paul's example of Henry VIII's marrying _at one fell swoop_ the six
wives is a non-sequitur. Even _then_, we can say that he had five wives, four
wives, ... and possibly that he was single, too.

Cheers,

JL Speranza
  "Logic Above All", in Grice to the Mill.
          -- "Every  sentence is a lesson in logic" (J. S. Mill)

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