One of the things you learn when you write drama is that people have to do
stuff while talking. A sober discussion doesn't play well.
Very much in favor of talk with minimal action.
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On Aug 26, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, I remember that scene. Actually, I thought that the Captain's
instruction to remove that page from the book was a bit extreme. A sober
discussion on why those criteria might be incomplete, or unreliable, or some
of them more relevant than others, would have been more useful, IMO.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 6:10 PM <epostboxx@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 25. Aug 2018, at 04:08, Torgeir Fjeld <t.fjeld1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Right. Who said we couldn't measure the greatness of literature? Here's
"The problem with a question like "Can we measure greatness?" is that it
seems to assume that the word "great" is merely quantitative in nature.
The word "measure" comes from the Latin via the French. The root Latin
word (mensura) means something like "size or quantity as ascertained by
measuring." And apparently the French derivative (mesure) has the sense of
a limit or boundary.
In short, because the question seems to come loaded with assumptions that
ill fit it to be applied to anything qualitative, you in fact limit your
assessment of the qualitative thing being assessed by even asking it. …
Cf. the following excerpt from the script of the film DEAD POETS SOCIETY:
Gentlemen, open your texts to page 21 of this introduction. Mr. Perry, will
you read the opening paragraph of the preface entitled "Understanding
"'Understanding Poetry,' by Dr. J. Evans Pritchard, Ph.D. To fully
understand poetry, we must first be fluent with its meter, rhyme and figures
of speech, then ask two questions: 1) How artfully has the objective of the
poem been rendered and 2) How important is that objective? Question 1 rates
the poem's perfection; question 2 rates its importance. And once these
questions have been answered, determining the poem's greatness becomes a
relatively simple matter. If the poem's score for perfection is plotted on
the horizontal of a graph and its importance is plotted on the vertical,
then calculating the total area of the poem yields the measure of its
greatness. A sonnet by Byron might score high on the vertical but only
average on the horizontal. A Shakespearean sonnet, on the other hand, would
score high both horizontally and vertically, yielding a massive total area,
thereby revealing the poem to be truly great. As you proceed through the
poetry in this book, practice this rating method. As your ability to
evaluate poems in this matter grows, so will, so will your enjoyment and
understanding of poetry."
"Excrement. That's what I think of Mr. J. Evans Pritchard. We're not laying
pipe. We're talking about poetry. How can you describe poetry like American
Bandstand? "Oh, I like Byron. I give him a 42, but I can't dance to it."
Now, I want you to rip out that page. Go on. Rip out the entire page. You
heard me. Rip it out. Rip it out! Go on. Rip it out! [Charles rips out the
page] Thank you, Mr. Dalton. Gentlemen, tell you what. Don't just tear out
that page, tear out the entire introduction. I want it gone. History. Leave
nothing of it. Rip it out! Rip! Be gone, J. Evans Pritchard, Ph.D. Rip.
Shred. Tear. Rip it out! I want to hear nothing but ripping of Mr.
Pritchard. We'll perforate it, put it on a roll. It's not the Bible. You're
not gonna go to Hell for this. Go on. Make a clean tear. I want nothing left
A longer excerpt can be found at
currently appreciating the sublimity of exemplars
of the species Arbutus menziesii on the south-western
shore of Vancouver Island without evaluating them
according to the CHAMPION TREES criteria:1) height
and 2) trunk circumference at 1.3 meters, in
Metchosin, British Columbia
P.S.: For an American Forests evaluation of Champion Trees use the formula:
Trunk Circumference (inches) + Height (feet) + 1/4 Average Crown Spread
(feet) = Total Points
Arriving at calculations can be a bit complicated. There’s a lot of
recommended equipment, from a simple tape measure to a handheld laser
hypsometer, which provides height, range and angle measurements. AF details
its requirements in an 86-page tree-measuring handbook found at:
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