Grammar was no longer taught formally in public school when I was growing up. I learned almost anything I know about English by studying French and Spanish, and later Greek and Hebrew. I started to understand my *own* language better by learning the others. I was, though, always a bit of a grammar fanatic even as a kid -- I parsed sentences for the fun of it. No one was taught about conjugating verbs, even. The bare minimum -- nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, were all that were deemed necessary. I knew how to formulate a correct sentence (mostly from reading literature), but I couldn't have said why a sentence was correct or incorrect grammatically until I was in junior high school. Hence my absolute wincing when a document from a legal office was rife with such errors as "when we went threw the goal today". Julie Krueger getting another headache just thinking about it ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Grammar Girl link Date: 1/24/2007 12:27:07 P.M. Central Standard Time From: _judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: I had to look up reflexive verbs too, Ursula. I was taught English grammar the old-fashioned way (strong and weak verbs, clause analysis/parsing), later learned the French verb tenses and moods... but never came across that/ Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula Stange" <Ursula@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:10 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Grammar Girl link > Reflexive verbs? I'd heard of reflexive pronouns, but not reflexive > verbs. Googling explains why -- used only in other languages. German > was my first language, but I never formally studied it, so didn't know > the term from that. I also studied a bit of conversational French when > I first moved to Northern Ontario (lots of French here), but again > didn't learn much terminology. My mother would say > Mann wirt so alt wie eine Kuh > und lernt noch immer was dazu > (spelling from memory) > Ursula > in sunny but cold North Bay > > JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > I think we're back to transitives and intransitives....which sort of > > leads to reflexive verbs and of course we could talk about > > subjunctives (which are horribly unclear in the English language). Or > > not. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- --- > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html