It has been recently suggested that Gettier's paper demonstrates that JTB theory can be examined in a rational way, which presumably saves the honor of philosophy. Well, I am not convinced that it does. For those who haven't read this short paper yet, it can be read at: http://www.ditext.com/gettier/gettier.html Gettier's paper attempts to demonstrate that justified true belief does not provide (jointly) sufficient conditions for knowledge in some cases. But surely it doesn't avoid the issue that was at stake, which was how to define such items as justified true belief, and especially how to define them independently of each other. Let us suppose that Smith has strong evidence for the following proposition: 1. Jones owns a Ford. Smith's evidence might be that Jones has at all times in the past within Smith's memory owned a car, and always a Ford, and that Jones has just offered Smith a ride while driving a Ford. Well, anyone who thinks that seeing someone driving a car is sufficient justification to assume that he owns it must be living on Mars. I drive my mother's car regularly and I don't "own" it. Consequently, the derived conclusions don't stand either. O.K.