Hi, JL, good to see you're still operating. I used to date a woman named Lucia, who was named after the Opera, but she couldn't sing worth a damn. She was good on the piano though. Even made he livelihood teaching piano. She was much more Mozart than Beethoven, while I've always been more "dum dum dum dum" -- but, following after Beethoven, Lucia's mostly deaf now, still teaches piano though. I guess she just watches the kids' fingering.
Funny thing is that you of all people would object to thingism when all your music is thinged to you. There's almost nothing we experience in our lives that's not through the agency of thingery -- except when we have transcendental thoughts, of course -- Walter must be proud! Of course once the sound waves hit your ear drums and make it to your brain, well then, it's no thingamaging then, that's purely you youing patterns of sound into you-meaningfulness. That's were the magic of being a human being begins. Thinging -- technology -- means that you don't have to be a European aristocrat to hear the most beautiful music that we humans have been able to produce to date (there's more to come). Thinking is thinging when you turn your mind over to knowing a thing inside out. Doctors thing us. I thing certain machines. Doctors make a lot more money. : )
Mike Geary----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Geary on Instrumental Technological Rationality
Thank you, John. In fear of waking Palma, I dare say that Heidegger distinguished between zuhanden and vorhanden as the two forms of beings. Vorhanden being nature made, and simply put "there' for us as Oakland is not. Zuhanden being being of human artifact, or THING BEING, or that which we relate to not as "being there" but being puposeful to us. Most animals, except humans, seem to spend most of their lives relating to vorhanden being. Except domestic pets, of course, who in deference to us acknowledge such frivilous beinghoodness as zuhandenness and sometimes use a litterbox. Human life on the whole is zuhanden-engaged. Even such supposedly pure vorhanden relations as sexuality have become zuhanden for many of us -- not me, of course. Our human lives are so thoroughly immersed in zuhanden that we think of our thing-engaged lives as "natural". Anyone who's had more than one course in Heiddegger will no doubt straighten me out, but I don't care. Human culture is aesthetic, philosophic and technological. We thing the world every bit as much if not more than we think it or dream it. Life is a hoot.Mike Geary Memphis----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wager" <jwager@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Geary on Instrumental Technological Rationalityjlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote:This is important. I cannot conceive of a human being (not a thing, really) just thinging. Take an Air Conditioner Repair Man (or Person). Surely he needs permission (by a nonthing = person) to get in, and he´ll need the payment from the person (not thing).Both the Buddhists and the Kantians might say that we "thing." We create the appearance of a "thing" where none existed; without people there would be no "things" at all. The forms of apperception (or the law of dependent origination) require that we notice that the process of "thinging" be a human one, not one in the outside (noumenal) world.------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off,digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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