I've often noticed comments taking off into some philosophical realm and looking back at the cause think someone has taken a wrong turn, and that wasn't what he meant at all. In the case below, Geary's "irony" about socialism, I "understand" something utterly different from the subsequent comments. I understand Geary to have been injured or ill to the extent that he is no longer able to support himself full time with his Air Conditioning enterprise. He has applied for and received subsidized housing. He doesn't want to say this in so many words, and he doesn't like being subsidized, but he can rationalize it - at least in conversation - calling it Socialism. And what am I rationalizing by calling myself a misanthropist? I got caught up in his predicament almost at once; feeling quite concerned, and thinking as I always do, is there anything I can do? And is there anything I ought to do - missing all the fine philosophical banter. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:56 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: 12 minutes Do I count as a new member? It's been a while (or is that "awhile"?) since I've contributed. My philosophy is still as it was before: "it is what it is." Doesn't leave much room for debate. Should and ought have no standing when it comes to is. Anyway, I have missed Phil-Lit-Lit-Id if only because it is usually the only email I ever get got gotten. Still fascinated by cool breezes. Still try to count the number of nitrogen-hydrogen-oxygen molecules smashing into my face every fraction of a fraction of a second. And looking at oak trees I'm still grateful that trees can't walk. God was good when he made that rule. The only difference in my life now is that I'm a socialist. I've always believed in socialism, of course, but now I'm a real live rooting-tooting socialist. That is, I live in U. S. government subsidized housing sponsored by the Catholic diocese of Memphis. Life is sweet. It took a couple of life-style threats to my life to soften these people's hearts, but at last I am victorious. Ironic, you say, that I should end up back in the arms of Holy Mother the Church. Not at all, I gave them 25 of my best years, time they done did some good unto me. Ha! I've even got God involved in this Socialism. Take care, my droogies. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Omar asked Not very related, but I am wondering why we aren't getting any new members here ? Is the list somehow covered, or the emailing lists are out of fashion now ? It's just that we're all returning from wishing we were on vacation. Robert Paul, thinking of what to say, if asked