In a message dated 1/22/2014 11:41:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Surely someone as logically acute as Russell did not open himself to this kind of rebuttal? Would not Russell say that "being shorter than" is not a true predicate but a relational variable (or some such)? I mean "there's one born every minute" and that means every minute Socrates changes in his relation to the numbers born after him - but surely only 'one born every minute' in the colloquial sense would suggest each new birth changes Socrates? Well, first of all, I should say that my uneducated use of "Oxbridge" (I hate that word) comes from Philomena Lee (as portrayed by Judi Dench in recent film). I don't have the exact quote to hand, but from memory, it went something along the lines. Philomena Lee is meeting this journalist. "Oxbridge," she says. The journalist is not amused. "This is a portmanteau for Oxford and Cambridge; I actually attended Oxford". ----- The screenplay is pretty good and the thing was directed by S. Frears, so the quote may be worth tracking. Anyway, we ['we' is hyperbolic] are not supposed to _know_ who wrote the obituary for Geach in the Daily Telegraph (now merely called "Telegraph" implicating that it may come MORE THAN once a day). But in The Guardian (on the other side of the political spectrum, as it were), the following passage could be read: "Geach was a wonderful lecturer and great stylist. He wrote in a direct, pointed, elegant, almost Johnsonian way, and had a capacity to produce crisp epigrammatic terms that entered the philosophical lexicon, such as "pronouns of laziness" for pronouns that only commonsensically, not grammatically, refer to something." So I am motivated to change this into "Geachiana", rather than the Oxbridge subject-line. Sorry about that. What is a Cambridge change? Is McEvoy right in that Russell should not be infamously known for this easy trick? A Cambridge change can be arrived at by following the well-tried analytical technique of re-casting philosophically important discussions and concepts in the meta-language. Thus, in this version, a "Cambridge change" (as opposed to what Grice and Speranza call an "Oxford change") in a thing is a change in the descriptions truly borne by the thing (where 'thing' is NOT used rudely: cfr. Porter, "What is this thing called love?"). The phrase “Cambridge change” came to Geach one morning in Spring (1969, 71–2). He lived in Richmond Road, Cambridge, _for years_ and knew the panorama. The idea came to Geach (who was Oxonian, rather, and Balliol-educated, to boot) to name the change "a Cambridge change" to mark its employment by not just Russell, but OTHER great Cambridge philosopher: notably: McTaggart. It is apparent that a Cambridge change includes all cases ordinarily thought of as change, such as change of colour, from “red” to “non-red.” But a Cambridge change also includes changes in the relational predicates of a thing, such as when Geary changed from having “non-brother” true of him to having “brother” true of me, just when Geary's mother gave birth to a second son. It might seem faintly paradoxical that there need be no (other) changes in Geary (height, weight, colouring, memories, character, thoughts) in this circumstance -- when he became a 'brother'. But it is simply a consequence of the above piece of metalinguistic ascent. The same may apply to one of Geary's heros: Elvis Presley -- if you want to keep the topic neutral. Geach's considerations, though do point up, though, that in attempting to capture the object-language concept, one should take note of the distinction between the monadic or internal or intrinsic properties of a thing, and its relations or external or extrinsic features. Or not, of course. Thus, the natural, Oxonian, good old Aristotelian view of change is that real, metaphysical change in a thing would be change in the monadic or internal or intrinsic properties of the thing. Although Oxford change may be affected by Bradley's elaborations on the unreality of relations, Geach's Cambridge change need not change. Or not. McEvoy: "Surely someone as logically acute as Russell" --- but then note that Geach also had in mind McTaggart who possibly was not as acute. I treasure this dictum by Geach, though, cited in the Daily Telegraph obituary (of Geach): "“Under God, I owe my very self to McTaggart, for it was knowledge of his philosophy that kept alight in me a longing for the infinite and eternal that was not to be quenched by the noisy winds of the world.” --- McEvoy continues: "... as acute as Russell" but perhaps not as acute as McTaggart -- "did not open himself to this kind of rebuttal?" "Would not Russell say that "... being shorter than... " is not a true predicate but a relational variable (or some such)?" Well, one would need to revise the Whitehead-and-Russell's monster: the Principia Mathematica. They spend quite some time (read: pages) on 'relations'. It is true that a monadic predicate is more of an accessible idea. But I think Whitehead and Russell (for the order of authorship is THAT) do classify predicates into: monadic and non-monadic. More strictly 1-adic and n>1-adic. These can be dyadic, triadic, and so on. The idea is set-theoretical: So we do have "S" -- short. As in Socrates was short. Symbolised Ss. But then we do have "... shorter than..." Socrates was shorter than his son. Symbolised as S(x, y) Then we have 'shortest', which is possibly a relation, too -- as in "The most beautiful girl in the world (if you happen to see)" (strictly: 'beautifulest'). Superlatives are a type of comparative, if that's correct grammar. In symbols, we should need universal quantification, or the negation of an existential quantifier: Christina is the most beautiful girl in the world if there is no such girl that is more beautiful than her (In symbols: ~(Ex)Gx & B(x, Christina). I say set-theoretical because we then have S = {Socrates} i.e. the set "Short" includes or contains Socrates as one of its members. But Shorther-than = {<Socrates, Socrates's son>} the dyadic predicate, 'shorter than' contains the ordered pair "Socrates, Socrates's son" as one of its members. McEvoy: >I mean: >"there's one born every minute" and >that means every minute Socrates changes in >his relation to the numbers born after him - but surely only 'one born every minute' >in the colloquial sense would suggest each new birth changes Socrates? Well, that possibly should include McTaggart who WAS born _a few minutes_ (meiosis) after Socrates. Indeed,i it is said to have been the observation of one of the tribe of Levi, to whom some person had expressed his astonishment at his being able to sell his damaged and worthless commodities, 'That there vash von fool born every minute,' he replied, cryptically. According to David W. Maurer, however, there's a mark born every minute, and "one to trim 'em and one to knock 'em," he added, in his dialect. Here 'trim' seems to mean to rip off, and 'knock' to persuade away from a scam. T he meaning is that there is no shortage of new victims, nor of con men, nor of honest men. Note that there's more to a Cambridge change than a Socrates change, though -- although it is true to say that each Cambridge change allows a Socratic variant. Or not. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html