[lit-ideas] Fw: Truly

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:51:51 -0800 (PST)

Reposting this, I am sure that the posts are getting delayed.


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From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [lit-ideas] Truly
 

Well, I don't think that convicting or not convicting is supposed to be a 
matter of  'choice'. Aren't judges and juries supposed to be compelled by the 
facts, or lack of them ? If it ever comes down to a matter of personal choice 
then there is probably something fishy going on.


O.K.



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 From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Truly
 
McEvoy, in "Jurisprudence" refers to  

""she truly believed she had no real choice" to convict - because, while  
she subjectively believed or felt she had no real choice, objectively she had 
a  choice and so her belief was not a "truly believed"; and on another 
reading to  acquit - because, while objectively she had a choice, nevertheless 
she  subjectively "truly believed" she had no choice. [Those familiar with 
Kant's  first Critique will know the trouble he had resolving the subjective 
and  objective aspects of things, and the voluminous literature that has 
ensued, and  so might understand why a judge might stay clear of trying to sort 
this out for  the jury."

Indeed, the adverb 'truly' can be a trick.

I think  Hart, borrowing from Bentham, would distinguish between internal 
and external  readings, and this is something Grice also essays in his 
"Aspects of  Reason".

"Truly", on the other hand, can be what was called in Oxford,  with artless 
sexism, a trouser-word.

She truly believed she had no real  choice.

ANOTHER SCENARIO:

Jack: did he believe it?
Jill: He  believes that p.

Jack believes that p.
Jack truly believes that  pl
Truly, Jack believes that p.

It seems that 'truly', as Ramsey said  about 'true', is
 redundant (Grice 
refers to Ramsey's 'redundance' theory of  truth).

Try 'sincerely'.

Etc.

Cheers,

Speranza  

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