Reposting this, I am sure that the posts are getting delayed. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [lit-ideas] Truly Well, I don't think that convicting or not convicting is supposed to be a matter of 'choice'. Aren't judges and juries supposed to be compelled by the facts, or lack of them ? If it ever comes down to a matter of personal choice then there is probably something fishy going on. O.K. ________________________________ From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:50 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Truly McEvoy, in "Jurisprudence" refers to ""she truly believed she had no real choice" to convict - because, while she subjectively believed or felt she had no real choice, objectively she had a choice and so her belief was not a "truly believed"; and on another reading to acquit - because, while objectively she had a choice, nevertheless she subjectively "truly believed" she had no choice. [Those familiar with Kant's first Critique will know the trouble he had resolving the subjective and objective aspects of things, and the voluminous literature that has ensued, and so might understand why a judge might stay clear of trying to sort this out for the jury." Indeed, the adverb 'truly' can be a trick. I think Hart, borrowing from Bentham, would distinguish between internal and external readings, and this is something Grice also essays in his "Aspects of Reason". "Truly", on the other hand, can be what was called in Oxford, with artless sexism, a trouser-word. She truly believed she had no real choice. ANOTHER SCENARIO: Jack: did he believe it? Jill: He believes that p. Jack believes that p. Jack truly believes that pl Truly, Jack believes that p. It seems that 'truly', as Ramsey said about 'true', is redundant (Grice refers to Ramsey's 'redundance' theory of truth). Try 'sincerely'. Etc. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html