-----Original Message----- From: Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx Sent: Dec 23, 2004 2:23 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Fw: Re: practicalities, hoaxes and holidays In a message dated 12/20/2004 10:24:40 AM Central Standard Time, aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Religion has little or nothing to do with Christmas. It's much more a winter solstice thing, and now it's become fundamental to the American economy. Since American consumption drives the world economy, it's fundamental to the world. Do Europeans do Christmas? Is it as consumption driven as American Christmas? HI, Sorry to have taken Time to think about how to answer this. But, it is intriguing as to how many different lists I am on also discuss this issue almost always during the Holiday Season. The person who shared this piece with me also wondered as to what makes the difference in people who are able to appreciate and enjoy the various holidays no matter if they are of that particular religion celebrating the particular holiday or not. She wondered if it had to do with having a secure sense of self or not. A.A. Talking to you about religion is like talking to Lawrence about war. Fortunately for the two of you, religion and war are here to stay, so enjoy. As to thinking the Christmas tree is related to pagan times and the placement of the holiday around the shortest day of the year is really a self esteem issue, all I can say is, don't that beat all. Also, a Jewish person endorsing Christmas proves what exactly? That he has high self esteem? Or that Christians persecuted Jews relentlessly throughout history and maybe Christmas was a reprieve before the next attack? Marlena, I'm speechless. Enjoy your shopping and gift giving, which unfortunately can't be done any other time of year. Personally, I think in addition to coopting a pagan holiday, Christmas is an excuse for a short period of luvy duvy that makes holy war acceptable, including pograms. But, you see, I have self esteem issues, so I can't help thinking this. Andy Amago Hoping you can see the good in Christmas, Marlena in Missouri ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html