[lit-ideas] Fw: Re: Lit-Ideas Conversions
- From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:14:19 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Overlooked was the first part of our exchange, still in need of an answer. For
your convenience I am pasting the portion of my original post to which you
responded:
Andy: Is it me, or is there a bit of hubris in some guy declaring that he has
inside information
that proves there is a god?
L.H. It's just you, Andy. I read the dialogue between Flew and Habermas and saw
no evidence of hubris. He was rather soft-spoken. In fact they both were.
A.A. Good thing, then. Otherwise I would have thought Professor Flew was
declaring
there was a God. Instead, what was it he was declaring?
-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Dec 14, 2004 1:49 PM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Lit-Ideas Conversions
Dramatics notwithstanding, primordial ooze did not reproduce itself.
Primordial ooze evolved very slowly over billions of years to the point where
it, in a much changed form, reproduced itself. Can you enlighten us as to what
Professor Flew claims Darwin thought vis-a-vis God?
And while you're at it, can you explain your Schwarzeneger connection? Not
being from California and having never seen a Schwarzeneger movie except in
trailers and clips, I don't know what you're talking about. Don't forget, two
parts to this request: Darwin, and Schwarzeneger.
Andy Amago
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From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Dec 14, 2004 1:11 PM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Lit-Ideas Conversions
I read your note and began laughing. The laugh sounded unlike my normal
laugh. Where had I heard that laugh before? Ah yes, the predator fiddling
with the instrument on his wrist while Schwarzeneger watched with
slowly-dawning comprehension.
You think of a bit of primordial ooze capable of reproducing itself as a
prime mover. Ooo hoo hoo haa haa haa haa haa
Lawrence
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Lit-Ideas Conversions
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Dec 14, 2004 11:12 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Lit-Ideas Conversions
It's just you, Andy. I read the dialogue between Flew and Habermas and saw
no evidence of hubris. He was rather soft-spoken. In fact they both were.
A.A. Good thing, then. Otherwise I would have thought Professor Flew was
declaring there was a God. Instead, what was it he was declaring?
L.H. Flew's issue with Darwin has nothing to do with a prime mover. It has
to do
with Darwin's original life form being able to reproduce.
A.A. There's a difference, I take it? That difference being ...
Andy Amago
Lawrence Helm
San Jacinto
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Amago
Is it me, or is there a bit of hubris in some guy declaring that he has
inside information that proves there is a god? And others really caring,
that's what gets me. Talk about one sheep, however exalted, within the fold
saying he has *scientific evidence* that there is a god, and the rest run
after him.
Regarding Darwin, I'm no Darwin expert, but whether or not Darwin believed
there was a prime mover is irrelevant. His theory of evolution works.
Pardon my French here, but I'm ashamed to be a member of this deep thinking
society called the human race. Well, gotta go, gotta find me a head sheep
to tell me what's on the agenda in the universe today ...
Andy
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