I want to say that John and Phil are really nice people who want to believe in the ascendancy of reason over stupidity. I agree that there are chinks in the armor, but given how devastating the entire Iraq thing has been, to just be experiencing a chink now is staggering. It's a testimonial to how concerned people are with reality as opposed to not having a clue that what he says is 180 degrees away from reality. Americans were incensed, livid that Clinton denied he had a blow job. Dragged him to impeachment for it. Yet this president kills and maims their children, puts them in debt, takes away their Social Security, spends record numbers on a party, lies about Iraq, and on and on, and they love him. I explain it by knowing that people are sheep-like stupid. People understand sex but can't get their heads around much else. Is it really that simple? Really, what is wrong with this picture? Andy Amago -----Original Message----- From: John McCreery <mccreery@xxxxxxx> Sent: Jan 28, 2005 2:09 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Iraq & news On 2005/01/28, at 15:53, Michael Chase wrote: > > M.C. This is, of course, not the "point of the exercise" at all. The > point of the exercise is to have "elections" held, so that the > Americans can hightail it out of there pronto while claiming to have > introduced "democracy" into that poor, benighted country. The Bushies > will subsequently claim, of course, that the Iraq adventure has > achieved every single one of its objectives, and much, much, more. Too bad, isn't it, that nobody outside the footprint of Fox News will believe the claim. Check out my most recent post on A.A. Cynic that I am, I think you over estimate people. Red neck America, his supporters, love Bush. He can shoot them in the foot, in both feet, and they'd say thanks. In fact, he did shoot them in the feet and they praise God he's in the White House. Forget that because of him we're broke and in debt and being stepped on in Iraq and only slightly more secure than on 9/12 and paying more taxes and all the rest of it. People are so stupid they elected him because he's "tough on terror" when he did nothing to prevent 9/11. And now his do-nothing yes woman is Secretary of State. What a man. And what a populace. Andy Amago http://bestoftheblogs.com/ and follow the link back to the Counterpunch source. John ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html