[lit-ideas] Re: Fukuyama and Danto
- From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:21:55 -0000
Oh no he didn't!
Surely Hegel was concerned with the spiritual. Marx, however was the
materialist.
As for Kojeve:
"Kojève follows Marx's 'inverted Hegelianism' by understanding the labour of
historical development in broadly 'materialist' terms."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/k/kojeve.htm#H3
Kojeve was also influenced by Heidegger:
"If Marx furnishes one central resource for Kojève's rereading of Hegel,
Heidegger provides the other."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/k/kojeve.htm#H4
Just don't ask me to explain it.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Fukuyama and Danto
No, no, no. Fukuyama got the concept from Kojeve (which he admits) who
argued that Marx who turned Hegel upside down was wrong and Hegel, who argued
that Capitalism would be the end of history was right after all.
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Omar Kusturica
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:22 AM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Fukuyama and Danto
Fukuyama says he got it from Marx, who (he also notes)
lifted it from Hegel. Danto was on his own admission
also influenced by Hegel. Well, I guess Eric caught
them now.
O.K.
--- Eric <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> _The End of History_
>
> Has anyone considered that Fukuyama was simply
> piggybacking his title (if not his total concept)
> from Arthur C. Danto's popular and hugely
> influential essay, from the mid-80s, called THE
> END OF ART?
>
> As Fukuyama does eight years later, Danto reprises
> a Hegelian thesis. Danto means the "end of art" to
> be the end of so-called "master narratives" in art
>
> As F says of history (ahem..8 years later) Danto
> maintains that art will continue, but the defining
> characteristics that allow art to extinguish their
> competitors, and create stylistic "progress" have
> disappeared from art, that art has no special way
> to be received.
>
> For Danto, after linear progress in artistic
> styles has been overthrown, anything goes and
> pluralism reigns. Fukuyama (ahem...8 years later)
> says that the dialectics that define civilizations
> will disappear and capitalist pluralism will reign.
>
> So maybe Fukuyama was at a cocktail party
> somewhere and overheard an aesthetics professor or
> artist describing Danto's essay (and later, book)
> and thought...."Hmmm, maybe I can make a name for
> myself by applying this same schtick to history?"
>
>
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