[lit-ideas] Re: France, a Rogue State in 1801-05

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:58:30 -0700

I did mention the Americans in my note.  I did describe their defeat, but
your comment -- you obviously forgot it -- was, and I quote, "I don't need
to read a book to know that Kagan's point is wrong. In the 1700s, Britain
was 

not the top global power. Kagan is wrong."  To argue as I do that Britain
was the top global power during the 18th century isn't arguing that they
never suffered a defeat.  If there is any logic in your note, below, it
would imply that because the colonists defeated the British they became the
top global power, which is absurd.  Surely you know that what you wrote is
absurd -- don't you?

 

Your sneers while making statements that are inaccurate, poorly argued,
illogical and out and out wrong do you no service, sir.

 

Lawrence

 

 

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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: France, a Rogue State in 1801-05

 

From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

 

> I think all would agree that Andreas is wrong and Kagan is right.  Even

> Andreas would agree if he would give up his resolve not to read a book.

> There is no nation during the 18th century that is as powerful as Britain.

> Britain was the top global power.  No nation compared to it.  There are
only

> certain nations that could contest Britain's ascendancy and these were the

> nations Britain defeated during the 18th century.

 

Lawrence, ever heard of 1776? I'm sure it's mentioned in your books.

 

So tell me, how did your "top global power" lose those colonies, if it was
so powerful?

 

Or do your books tell you that the UK defeated that rag-tag bunch of
colonials too?

 

Oh, go ahead: admit it. You don't really know which countries were the
empires of the 1600s 

and 1700s, do you? It's not in your books, all written by British and
Americans.

 

yrs,

andreas

www.andreas.com

 

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