[lit-ideas] Re: Fooling Trivers

  • From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:15:38 +0000 (GMT)

>"He has also contributed by explaining self-deception as an adaptive  
evolutionary strategy (first described in 1976).">

This bald statement is unsatisfactory, as Trivers' aim is not to tell a 
"just-so-story" about the adaptiveness of "self-deception" but to examine it in 
terms of both its adaptiveness and non-adaptiveness. (Read the book.)


The pressing issue with "self-deception", from a Darwinian POV, is that it 
belongs with things like "altruism": where both "altruism" and "self-deception" 
would seem on the face of it non-adaptive in Darwinian terms, and so there is a 
problem in trying to explain them in Darwinian terms. In the case of "altruism" 
Darwinians have made tremendous advance in explaining apparent "altruism" in 
Darwinian terms [as Dawkins sets out well in "The Selfish Gene"], but with 
"self-deception" Trivers is entering relatively uncharted waters.


In "Deceit", Triver's theme is to explain how "self-deception" could become a 
prevalent aspect of human psychology - which explanation must be in terms of it 
being to some extent adaptive; but also Trivers seeks to bring out how it is 
maladaptive. There is no contradiction in this: what may be "adaptive" for 
certain purposes may be "maladaptive" for others. 


Also against any one-sided emphasis on "adaptiveness":- there is the underlying 
question of evolution favouring a kind of 'equilibrium' between tendencies to 
"self-deception" and tendencies that go against "self-deception". We might 
expect to see striking assymetry in when "self-deception" is favoured: we might 
expect "self-deception" is to be selected against where it works against 
self-interest and to be selected for when it works for self-interest.


The myriad challenges of life can render maladaptive what would often be 
adaptive: for example, a courteous manner with persons in authority might be 
part of an adaptive skill-set for humans in many situations. But, as Trivers 
analyses certain aeroplane disasters, he suggests that a deferential manner in 
an emergency - where the person in authority is on a course for disaster* - may 
itself be a manner that paves the way to disaster. It appears there have been 
many preventable air disasters that  were not averted because of a deferential 
or polite attitude of the sort Walter might generally applaud (this explains 
why there are fewer accidents pro rata when a subordinate pilot is flying than 
when the head pilot is flying - because the head pilot will not hesitate to 
intervene to correct the subordinate's mistake in a way the subordinate may 
hesitate to challenge the head pilot [Trivers refers to some tragic recorded 
evidence of a subordinate, who went to
 his death with the head pilot and the rest of the plane, because he did not 
sufficiently challenge the head pilot on a lethal safety issue before 
take-off]).

So we should never raise the issue of "adaptive" without looking also at the 
"maladaptive" side of the coin; whether a trait is "adaptive" or "maladaptive" 
is always relative to the situation in which it is displayed, and evolutionary 
selection pressures may select for "self-deception" to a degree [relative to 
certain situations] while also selecting against "self-deception" to a degree 
[relative to other situations]. Such is the complexity of life.

It bowdlerises the Darwinian approach to offer it as if it is merely a 
one-sided "just so story" about the "adaptiveness" of everything. If this is 
all Darwinism had to offer it would not only be relatively uninteresting an 
approach but easily falsified - for it is easy to find "maladaptive" traits 
that have nevertheless endured. What a Darwinian approach offers is the 
possibility of a detailed explanation of the existence of traits in terms of 
both their relative "adaptiveness" and "maladaptiveness". That proves exciting.


Dnl
Ldn








On Saturday, 15 March 2014, 15:02, "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> 
wrote:
 
From the Wikipedia page on Trivers:

"He has also contributed by explaining self-deception as an adaptive  
evolutionary strategy (first described in 1976)."

But I don't think the reference is given. I should try and explore McEvoy's 
link, which was the amazon.com page, with a possibility to 'read inside'. 
Or  not!

Cheers,

Speranza

References

Trivers, R. L. 1976. 
Grice, H. P. 1975. Method in philosophical psychology: from the banal to  
the bizarre.
---- on self-deception and evolutionary strategies. Or not.



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