Let me just preface this by saying: "my favourite and first cat died yesterday and I loved him and it was a tough day" -- but, cats ain't got no place in any kind of philosophy -- other than comparing them to women [in Cosby's words] "come here, come here, come here, get away get away get away"... they are not moral. They will shit where they need to shit... they will mark their territory even if it is spraying your brand new 3000 dollar bar etc. They can destroy ANYTHING that you treasure in 3 minutes flat -- including the baby's perfect soft skinned face. They kill 'innocent' birds and mice and such like. They are not philosophically deep with the brain the size of a small grape. And lastly, they can win staring contests... which is an anti-requisite to a good argument. I hate/love cats! just my humble onion, p (3-1=2 cat owner)