[lit-ideas] Re: FW: [SPAM] Question, probably for Omar

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:50:36 -0500

I think it's safe to say that we love with the grace with which we are
loved.  We give what we have.  When we feel accepted and valued, we will
accept and value others.  When we're beaten, we will beat others, even,
sometimes especially, within our families.  It's funny how the world just
does not get it.  Instead, they build weapons and beat each other into
submission ...



> [Original Message]
> From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 11/30/2006 10:36:22 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: FW: [SPAM] Question, probably for Omar
>
> I haven't had proper access to the Web lately and
> cannot supply lots of current details. Nevertheless,
> it seems that the Israelis have adopted the US
> approach from Iraq - instead of trying to control the
> situation, they have created a planned vacuum
> (political, economic, security) in which their
> enemies, lacking any other solution or a clear course
> of action, will probably turn against each other.
> That's what will probably happen to a country without
> a functioning state when it is left on its own,
> especially with smartly timed bits of external
> provocation. (ALthough the talk about civil war in
> Lebanon or Palestine might be a little pre-mature.)
> That is why some of us were suspicious about the
> 'unilateral withdrawal' plans. The tactics of creating
> conditions for and / or instigating internal conflicts
> is at work in Iraq, Palestine and Lebanon. The hip
> question right now is: "Why are Muslims killing
> Muslims ?" There are answers, but they can probably
> not be given in one-liners. I'll try to say more about
> this later.
>
> O.K.
>
>
>
>
> It seems
> --- Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > There's a lot on the Internet.  I got this from an
> > Israeli site:
> >  
> > "Now that Israel has almost beaten them into
> > submission, Palestinians seem intent on destroying
> > each other. Internal chaos is spreading." 
> >  
> >
> http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0804/palestinian_civil_war.php3
> >  
> > Like duh.  Define acting civilized by beating
> > someone into submission and then complain that
> > they're not behaving the way you want them to.  
> > Starve people, humiliate them and complain about
> > mobocracy.  The Israelis are doing to the
> > Palestinians what the Tsars did to the Russian
> > people.  Maybe Olmert has come to his senses with
> > his latest concessions although it  may well be too
> > little too late.  Both the U.S. and mini me Israel
> > gave war a chance, and here we are.  Al Sadr might
> > be shaping up to be the Napoleon at least of Iraq. 
> > It was strange listening to Bush complain that
> > there's no civil war in Iraq.  It's only al Qaeda
> > stoking the commotion.  Uh, isn't that why we're in
> > Iraq in the first place, to defeat the likes of al
> > Qaeda?  Is that an admission that their Middle
> > Eastern "policy" (otherwise known as throwing a deck
> > of cards in the air and seeing where they land) is a
> > complete failure?  And the Israelis as recently as
> > July were so enamored of this "policy" that they m
> >  ilitarily destroyed a fledgling democracy on their
> > border.  Arrogance combined with bottomless
> > stupidity and real big guns can backfire pretty
> > badly.  The Israeli Cossacks definitely have their
> > work cut out for them.  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > I think I have a pretty good understanding of the
> > Iraq situation, and I pretty much understand the
> > Lebanon situation, but I haven't been following the
> > Palestinian situation.  Apparently they're on the
> > brink of a civil war too.  Those three combined
> > might be the regional war everyone's been fearing. 
> > Omar, do you know what's going on with the
> > Palestinians?  Can you explain it or supply links?  
>
>
>
>  
>
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