[lit-ideas] Re: FW: Read and pass...Fwd. 'Stay the Course!' is not enough

  • From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:37:13 -0800 (PST)

I am completely seriously wondering how the religious fanatics who support =
President Bush feel about the way the war is going in Iraq.  The reason I'm=
 wondering is because Bush consulted with God before invading, and God appr=
oved.  Bush also turned it into a war of good against evil.  How do the fun=
damentalists explain how poorly the war is going.  Do they even explain it?=
  Do they wonder where God is in this?  I am wondering in absolute seriousn=
ess.


Andy=20




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t enough

Hi,
That was interesting.  We'll see what will happen or if anyone,  really, wi=
ll=20
pay attention.  He's no longer the 'voice' he used to be--he's  not=20
Religiously Right enough, actually. But, he is a conservative  Republican, =
in many=20
respects, and I do think there are many moderate  Republicans played the ga=
me with=20
Bush over the election (Sen Bond in Missouri  comes to mind) and who are a=
=20
tad worried about a number of decisions that have  been made...
=20
But, I read these two pieces today and they really did make me wonder how =
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"Democracy" as envisioned by Pres Bush and cohorts can happen in Iraq.
=20
The Fallujah piece--well, for a country whose war has ended, this simply =
=20
defies my imagination.  I just imagine what would happen were the same  thi=
ng to=20
happen here. =20
I cannot imagine what it would be like to be a  mom there.  It just hurts=
=20
too much to imagine that the USA would have  decided to completely=20
annihilate the living situation of so many---when they  had stated that=20
there were what? only 3000 insurgents in the entire  city.  How many, again=
,=20
were living in that city before we (ie. the USA  troops) decided it had to =
be=20
flattened--starting with the hospitals?
Is  this what we do after a war is *over*? =20

And then I read the piece about the Christians in Iraq and wondered where =
=20
the voices were who would speak up for them?  Perhaps the USA inadvertently=
 =20
does, indeed, want an Islamic nation to exist--as long as the government is=
 =20
(theoretically or for a time) in favor of its policies?
=20
I don't know.  I admit to being a bit at a loss about the whole  situation=
=20
right now...

I always thing about how I can so easily weep with Rachel (and other moms) =
=20
for her (their) children--and then wish for a Goddess Kali to come to the =
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rescue,
 Marlena in  Missouri

http://www.irinnews.org/print.asp?ReportID=3D44904

IRAQ:  Death toll in Fallujah rising, doctors say

=A9  IRIN

An IRCS  convoy going to Fallujah, as needs are still not being met.

FALLUJAH, 4  Jan 2005 (IRIN) - "It was really distressing picking up=20
dead bodies from  destroyed homes, especially children. It is the most=20
depressing situation I  have ever been in since the war started," Dr=20
Rafa'ah al-Iyssaue, director of  the main hospital in Fallujah city, some=
=20
60 km west of Baghdad, told IRIN. =20

The hospital emergency team has recovered more than 700 bodies=20
from  rubble where houses and shops once stood, according to al-
Iyssaue.

He  added that more than 550 were women and children. He said a=20
very small  number of men were found in these places and most were=20
elderly. =20

Doctors at the hospital claim that many bodies had been found in a =20
mutilated condition, some without legs or arms. Two babies were found=20
at  their homes and are believed to have died from malnutrition,=20
according to a  specialist at the hospital.=20

Al-Iyssaue added these numbers were only  from nine neighbourhoods=20
of the city and that 18 others had not yet been  reached, as they were=20
waiting for help from the Iraqi Red Crescent Society  (IRCS) to make it=20
easier for them to enter.=20

He explained that many  of the dead had been already buried by=20
civilians from the Garma and Amirya  districts of Fallujah after approval=
=20
from US-led forces nearly three weeks  ago, and those bodies had not=20
been counted.=20

IRCS officials told IRIN  they needed more time to give an accurate=20
death toll, adding that the city  was completely uninhabitable.=20

Ministry of Health officials told IRIN  they were in the process of=20
investigating the number of deaths, but claimed  that a very small=20
number of women and children were killed, contrary to what  doctors in=20
Fallujah had said. They added they were working together with the  US-
led forces to rehabilitate the health system inside the city. =20

Residents who have returned to their homes after waiting for hours to =20
enter the city found that most of their homes had been totally destroyed =
=20
by the fighting which started nearly a month ago between the US-led =20
forces and insurgents who are said to be under the control of Abu-
Mussab  al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist wanted by the Iraqi=20
government. =20

"I've been here for more than six hours and until now could not enter =20
the city, even after the fighting finished in our area. There is no respect=
 =20
for civilians," Samirah al-Jumaili, a mother of seven, told IRIN. =20

The situation in Fallujah was still not clear. According to Col. Clark =20
Mathew, spokesman for the US Marines, night time attacks continued=20
in  some areas of the city. US forces have informed residents not to=20
leave their  homes after the imposed curfew of 1800 to 0600.=20

Mathew explained that  most attacks were in areas where US troops=20
have bases in order to secure the  city, but added that by the end of this=
=20
month the situation should be under  control and that the reconstruction=20
of Fallujah would then begin. "We hope  that very soon reconstruction=20
of Fallujah will start and families will feel  a new life," Mathew added.=
=20

"The US troops are saying that soon Fallujah  will be rebuilt. I believe=20
that this city won't offer a minimum of living  conditions until another=20
year has passed. I am still searching for what they  have been calling=20
democracy," Muhammad Kubaissy, a civilian from Fallujah,  told IRIN.=20
His home and two shops were destroyed in the fighting. =20

"They came to bring us freedom, but all Iraqis are now prisoners in =20
their own homes," he added.

"It is impossible to live in Fallujah.  There is no water, electricity or=
=20
sewage treatment. Even hospitals cannot  afford the minimum of=20
security for all families of the city. We don't have  enough medicine and=
=20
you can feel the bad smell of bodies in the air,"  al-Iyssaue added.=20

Residents of Fallujah have been asking the Iraqi  government to allow=20
journalists and TV reporters to enter the city in order  to show the=20
reality.=20

The government will only allow journalists to  visit with a special identit=
y=20
card, saying it is for their own safety. Many  journalists have been=20
turned away from Fallujah after not receiving  authorisation from US-
troops guarding
the city.=20

"We need someone  here to show the reality of Fallujah. Even when=20
some journalists are here  they are being followed by the Marines. We=20
need someone to help us. The  world should see the real picture of=20
Fallujah," Sheikh Abbas al-Zubeiny told  IRIN.=20


MB (again):  and then there is this:
=20
>January 06, 2005, 7:30 a.m.
>Christian  Crisis
>ChaldoAssyrian Christians may soon leave Iraq en  masse.
>
>by Nina Shea & James Y. Rayis
>
>Iraq's  Christian minority is being driven out of its ancestral=20
>homeland by a  wave of persecution as devastating as any tsunami. In=20
>less than four  weeks, a pivotal election will take place in Iraq=20
>that represents this  community's best hope for finding a secure home=20
>there, yet they find  themselves marginalized and pushed aside in the=20
>electoral process =F7 not  only by their tormentors but, perhaps=20
>inadvertently, by the U.S.  government. These Christians, who are=20
>both pro-Western and  pro-democracy, need our help so that they can=20
>build a future in their  native land with a modicum of security and=20
>freedom. Without it, they  will leave, and U.S. Iraq policy will be=20
>dealt a setback so severe it  may never recover.
>
>Tens of thousands of Iraq's nearly one million  ChaldoAssyrians, as=20
>this indigenous cultural and linguistic ethnic group  is called under=20
>Iraq's Transitional Administrative Law, have  fled into exile over=20
>the past few months. Their leaders fear that,  like the Iraqi Jews =F7=20
>who accounted for a third of Iraq's population  until facing=20
>relentless persecution in the middle of the last   century =F7 they may=20
>leave en masse. Though many Iraqis, particularly  moderates, suffer=20
>violence, the ChaldoAssyrians, along with the smaller  non-Muslim=20
>minorities of Sabean Mandeans and Yizidis, may be as a group  all but=20
>eradicated from Iraq. Their exodus began in earnest in August  after=20
>the start of a terrorist bombing campaign against their churches. =20
>With additional church bombings right before Christmas, hundreds =20
>more Christian families escaped in fear to Jordan and  Syria.
>
>In the run up to elections, Sunni terrorists and  insurgents have=20
>targeted the ChaldoAssyrians with particular ferocity,  linking them=20
>to the West. The main Assyrian Christian news agency =20
><http://aina.org/>AINA.org reported last week that the kidnapping =20
>tally for Christians now ranges in the thousands, with ransom =20
>payments averaging $100,000 each. One who could not afford the =20
>payment, 29-year-old Laith Antar Khanno, was found beheaded in Mosul =20
>on December 2, two weeks after his kidnapping. Cold-blooded =20
>assassinations of Christians are also on the rise. Prominent=20
>Assyrian surgeon and professor Ra'aad Augustine Qoryaqos was shot =20
>dead by three terrorists while making his rounds in a Ramadi clinic =20
>on December 8. That same week two other Christian businessmen from =20
>Baghdad, Fawzi Luqa and Haitham Saka, were abducted from work and =20
>murdered.
>
>Both Sunni and Shiite extremists who seek to impose their codes  of=20
>behavior have been ruthless toward the Christians, throwing acid in =20
>the faces of women without the hijab (veil) and gunning down the =20
>salesclerks at video and liquor stores. In the north, Kurdish =20
>administrators have withheld U.S. reconstruction funds from =20
>ChaldoAssyrian areas, and, together with local peshmerga forces, =20
>have confiscated some Christian farms and villages. Of the $20 =20
>billion that American taxpayers generously provided for the =20
>reconstruction of Iraq two years ago, none so far has gone to =20
>rebuild ChaldoAssyrian communities. The State Department is =20
>distributing these funds exclusively to the Arab- and Kurdish-run =20
>governorates =F7 the old Saddam Hussein power structure =F7 who fail to =
=20
>pass on the ChaldoAssyrian share.
>
>Though Iraq's  president, prime minister, and Grand Ayatollah Sistani=20
>have all  denounced the attacks against the Christians, the=20
>persecution has not  abated. The ChaldoAssyrians have endured much=20
>throughout the last  century in Iraq, including brutal Arabization=20
>and Islamization  campaigns. But this current period may see their=20
>last stand as a  cohesive community.
>
>Should the ChaldoAssyrian community disappear  from Iraq, it would=20
>mean the end of their Aramaic language (spoken by  Jesus), and their=20
>customs, rites, and culture. A unique part of  Christian patrimony=20
>would disappear along with this first-century  church. The United=20
>States would have presided over the destruction of  one of the=20
>world's oldest Christian communities. Its reverberations  would be=20
>keenly felt just beyond Iraq's borders. As Christian scholar  Habib=20
>Malik wrote last month in the daily press of his native Lebanon,  if=20
>the democratic project of Iraq ends in dismal failure for the =20
>ChaldoAssyrians, the future will be bleak for all the historic =20
>churches of the Middle East. No wonder Pope John Paul II used his =20
>public appearances on both Christmas and New Year's to express =20
>"great apprehension" and "profound regret" about the situation in =20
>Iraq.
>
>Further loss of ChaldoAssyrian influence in Iraq  would also have=20
>dire implications for Iraq itself and for American  policy. The=20
>ChaldoAssyrians are a disproportionately skilled and  educated group,=20
>and they also possess that increasingly scarce trait in  the Middle=20
>East: the virtue of toleration. They are a natural political  bloc=20
>for building a democracy with minority protections and individual =20
>rights. Their presence bolsters Muslim moderates who claim religious =20
>pluralism as a rationale for staving off governance by Islamic =20
>sharia law.
>
>The ChaldoAssyrians who continue to tough it  out in Iraq do so=20
>desperately clinging to the hope that liberal  democracy will take=20
>root there. They and their communities in the  American diaspora,=20
>numbering around 450,000, are stirring with activity  in preparation=20
>for the elections at the end of January. These elections  will choose=20
>a National Assembly that will draft the country's permanent =20
>constitution. They are eager to see individual rights to religious =20
>freedom and all fundamental freedoms carried over from the interim =20
>constitution into the permanent government.
>
>It is in the  direct political interest of the United States to keep=20
>the  ChaldoAssyrians in Iraq and ensure they have a voice in the=20
>political  process unfolding over the next year. Yet U.S. policy=20
>toward Iraq's  valuable ChaldoAssyrian allies seems to be one of=20
>utter  indifference.
>
>While Iraq's hard-line Shiite parties are heavily  financed by Iran,=20
>Kurdish leaders have long been bankrolled by the U.S.,  and Sunni=20
>insurgents are funded by Syria, the pro-democracy  ChaldoAssyrians=20
>have no sponsors. The U.S. policy of providing  democracy-building=20
>funds to political parties in emerging democracies,  made legendary=20
>with Solidarity in Poland, ended a decade ago. The U.S.  government=20
>is taking steps to compensate one religious minority that  might fare=20
>poorly in the election. According to press reports, the U.S. =20
>administration has called for assembly seats to be set aside for the =20
>Sunni minority, which is boycotting the elections after warnings by =20
>extremist Sunni leaders. But no provisions have been made for =20
>ChaldoAssyrian Christians, who, unlike many insurgent Sunnis, work =20
>for the Coalition rather than build roadside bombs against  it.
>
>In short, ChaldoAssyrian candidates and parties are alone and =20
>without funds. If these Christians fail to win seats in the =20
>assembly, they will have no direct say in the critical drafting of =20
>the country's permanent constitution. Don't expect the United States =20
>to speak up for them =F7 or for other moderates.
>
>The same  lackadaisical approach to individual and minority rights is=20
>shown in  America's approach to the drafting of Iraq's permanent=20
>constitution,  where it has adopted de facto a policy of strict=20
>neutrality. The State  Department and the U.S. Agency for=20
>International Development are funding  programs to provide outside=20
>legal and expert advice to assist in this  drafting. These=20
>"independent" contractors are not supposed to exert any influence to =20
>ensure constitutional protections for individual rights to religious =20
>freedom, women's equality, or any other basic human right. As one =20
>such U.S.-funded advisor explained in an L.A. Times op-ed last =20
>month: "Outsiders should not... seek to prevent Shiite parties from =20
>advancing models for an Islamic republic." The only such existent =20
>model, of course, is the Islamic Republic of Iran =F7 a country so =20
>devoid of individual human rights that its dissidents are sentenced =20
>to death for blasphemy, the "crime of thinking," and whose governing =20
>ideology is explicitly hostile to American interests.
>
>The  rationale for this is that the focus should be on "process," not=20
>on  "imposing values" =F7 that is they are not concerned about the=20
>outcome,  only how it is achieved. A lesson of apartheid South Africa=20
>is that the  rule of law only goes so far in providing for a fair and=20
>humane society.  The U.S. Commission on International Religious=20
>Freedom, an independent  federal agency, wrote an urgent letter on=20
>Iraq's religious minorities to  President Bush last month, protesting=20
>this approach and recommending  that the administration "give clear=20
>directives to American officials and  recipients of U.S.=20
>democracy-building grants" to advocate the inclusion  of religious=20
>freedom and other fundamental human rights in the permanent =20
>constitution.
>
>Over 1,300 American soldiers have given  their lives so far in Iraq.=20
>We owe it to them and to Iraqis =F7 many of  whom have also paid with=20
>their lives supporting the Coalition =F7 to take  our policy goal of=20
>democratizing Iraq seriously. One way is to  level  the playing field=20
>in the political arena for the  ChaldoAssyrian community. We should=20
>be helping all candidates whose  political ideology is based on an=20
>acceptance of liberal democracy and  individual religious freedom and=20
>other fundamental human rights =F7 even  if they are Christian.
>
>There is an urgent need for immediate  private funding to help=20
>pro-democracy ChaldoAssyrian candidates and  voters in the January 30=20
>elections. The private response to southeast  Asia's tsunami victims=20
>proves that concerned individuals can make a  critical difference.=20
>Only a small fraction of that generous outpouring  is needed to keep=20
>the ChaldoAssyrians politically competitive =F7 through  voter=20
>education, candidate spots on television and radio, campaign =20
>literature, get-out-the-vote efforts, and other election essentials. =20
>Tax-deductible donations for this purpose can be sent to: Iraq =20
>Freedom Account, <http://www.aanf.org/>Assyrian American National =20
>Federation, 5550 North Ashland, Chicago, IL 60640.
>
>=F7 Nina  Shea is the director of Freedom House's=20
_http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/>Center_ (http://www.freedomhouse.org=
/religion/>Center)   for=20
Religious Freedom.=20
>James Y. Rayis, an Atlanta lawyer, is vice chair  of the=20
Chicago-based ChaldoAssyrian American Advocacy  Council.
>
>  This article appeared in NRO on Jan. 6,  2005
>    =20



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