[lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: WTO and War

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:34:49 -0500

Germany was/is IN (as in was a member of) the Western Civilization, and we 
fought a WORLD WAR against them.  Therefore, what does "Clash of Civilizations" 
mean?  Does he refine the term to mean clash *within* civilizations, sort of 
like a little domestic violence, just a few tens of millions dead, no big deal, 
as opposed to ... ???  I neither approve nor disapprove of his terms.  I just 
think he's bandying around words that are meaningless, and the words are being 
repeated as though by repetition they'll become more meaningful.  


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 3/1/2006 11:49:36 AM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: WTO and War


Those writing about the decline and fall of civilizations, historians, 
sociologists, and anthropologists have developed terminology suitable to their 
tasks.  Huntington uses the most widely accepted classification of 
civilizations in his thesis. Germany, of course, is in the Western 
Civilization. 

I?m sure Huntington, and the other historians, sociologists and anthropologists 
will be devastated to learn that you don?t approve of their terminology.

Lawrence




From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:30 AM
To: lit-ideas
Subject: [lit-ideas] FW: Re: WTO and War

Lawrence, what civilization would you put the Germans in (WWII)?  
Clashes of civilizations is an oxymoron.  Clashes of barbarians is more to the 
point.  Clashes of barbarians is definitely ongoing.  It's known as history.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 3/1/2006 12:51:41 AM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: WTO and War

the arguments of Samuel P. Huntington who argues against Fukuyama and thinks we 
shall have ongoing clashes of civilization.  

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