Lawrence, what civilization would you put the Germans in (WWII)? Clashes of civilizations is an oxymoron. Clashes of barbarians is more to the point. Clashes of barbarians is definitely ongoing. It's known as history. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 3/1/2006 12:51:41 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: WTO and War the arguments of Samuel P. Huntington who argues against Fukuyama and thinks we shall have ongoing clashes of civilization.