[lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: Eric's hypocritcal wars
- From: Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 16:45:09 EDT
In a message dated 4/2/2006 3:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I was annoyed before, and now the anger is gone. I
hope whatever was bothering you is processed out too.
Dear Andy/Irene,
<g>
Yes, that is what I'm hoping too!
I think what Andreas was doing to Eric was a bit like what I was doing to
you when we had our little spat. What do you think? You remember, when you
were going down that depressing (to me <g> even if not to you) path of kids
with
horrible parents, etc. and convinced that no one cared--and I kept saying
that every time you posted about that, that I was going to suggest that you go
volunteer, take in foster kids, etc etc. Remember?
It was awfully rude of me--and though it took me a bit to realize that--at
least I finally did! And, we came through to the other side...hopefully Eric
and Andreas will, too!
Because there ARE so many aspects of even the war in Iraq that ought to be
looked at--and, Eric raised a real fundamental point--if Omar (and also myself,
actually) are convinced that the oil, the industrial military complex, etc.,
were what were driving much of the war in Iraq to occur--than what in the
world are the people who are against that war doing by driving or even owning
a
vehicle that runs on oil? Wow--talk about putting your money/life on the
line to fit your viewpoint! Now, I don't know if Eric posting were 'okay'
with Andreas if, for example, it was to come out that Eric was working behind
the scenes for the Special Forces and happened to be stationed in NYC for the
moment, with periodic trips abroad (remember when he had to pick someone up
at the airport...what it if was himself, returning from such a trip?)
Would it have been 'okay' with ME if you had been doing some sort of
advocacy thing with kids and yet still posting about your despair?
Um, I think I would have been just as concerned ... so I don't think,
really, that what Andreas wants to do is to say that it is ONLY okay to post
about
a topic if you are actually involved in it (though as Eric stated, perhaps he
is even doing more on an individual level than many people are doing who are
whining about the administration and Congress who set up the war in the first
place...)
And, as far as putting kids in harm's way--we don't have a draft. Each of
these kids made a choice when they joined the military to be put in harm's way.
I've been having this discussion (amongst others) with the young man, the son
of a friend, who recently returned from Iraq and who is working on finishing
my basement (hooray!) He is joining again, but this time the Special Forces
(to the despair, in a sense, of his dad who is very liberal and the fear of
his mom who is very conservative) -- and he, himself, disagrees with the war
in Iraq--so we've been talking about the 'why' he is doing what he is doing.
(He is pausing for a week to go sign papers and get things set up so he can
do this by the end of April, he hopes...but at least he'll have my basement
finished and finish the fence so the Sparkmonster will be able to freely
wander
in and out...) I know a lot of people who have served in the military and
been in some pretty awful situations--situations that I didn't even know our
military was involved in...and they were in harm's way. It's part of the life
and even my sis who is still in the Navy always has that possibility hanging
on her head--and she has two little girls and had them even with that
possibility always there!
I keep thinking that *I* would like to bicycle to work, but I work about 20
minutes (driving on the interstate) away, travel three counties and put on
what seems to be a zillion miles a year for my car. I have not figured out how
to lessen my use of gas -- and so should probably not post on any aspect of
the Iraqi war because of that...<sigh>
I tend, like Eric, to look at all sides of every issue. I don't know if that
is part of my training as a librarian or if it is simply my value system to
do that (I do think it is most helpful in my decision making process--when I
have not done so, I have ended up in situations which are not the best...)
I think if all scenarios had been looked at in entering this Iraqi mess, we
wouldn't have near the problems we have now.
anyway--Irene/Andy--just relax and know that there are going to be the
pulling up of other issues whenever buttons get 'stuck' and stress has arisen.
You're okay. Phil's okay. Andreas is okay. Eric is okay. John is okay. Omar is
okay. We're all okay--really.
Best,
Marlena in Missouri
and on a completely different note, I'm pondering a statement in a fantasy
work I'm reading for R & R today:
"Existing without any pride, What a terrible way to live"
"There are worse ways,"
But, speaking of a different sidenote--
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