[lit-ideas] FW: Re: Arrivederci, Mr. Bush...
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:48:38 -0500
Well, okay, we're not collapsed yet. But it's sure weird out there ...
> [Original Message]
> From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 3/16/2005 10:45:18 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Arrivederci, Mr. Bush...
>
> What happened to the United States I grew up in? I don't recognize this
> country anymore. Has it always been this way and I just never noticed?
> Like Enron, the collapse didn't happen overnight. The seeds were sown
much
> earlier, but when?
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 3/16/2005 10:16:39 PM
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Arrivederci, Mr. Bush...
> >
> > Not only that, but in Evangelical interpretation of the book of
> Revelations,
> > a war in the Middle East is absolutely necessary for the Second Coming
> of
> > the Messiah which is precluded or accompanies (I forget) the reclaiming
> of the
> > Promised land (Israel) by the Israelites. A massive war in the ME
MUST
> > happen for the Second Coming to happen. They are seeing signs of
> prophecies being
> > fulfilled everywhere. If you do a search in the text of Revelations
and
> > look for the word "bear" and know that during the fall of the Soviet
> Bloc,
> > Russia was determined by the Evangelicals to be that which Revelations
> refers to
> > as "the bear" (yes, I'm serious), you get a sense of what I'm talking
> about...
> > very, very scary. Everyone has a right to their beliefs, sure. And I
> have
> > no less respect for their integrity in their belief life than anyone
> else's.
> > But it does say something about why the separation of Church and State
> is
> > so crucial. And that separation has been seriously eroded.
> >
> > Julie Krueger
> >
> > ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Arrivederci,
> Mr.
> > Bush... Date: 3/16/05 8:12:54 P.M. Central Standard Time From:
> > _aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) To:
> _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) , _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on:
> > I got around to reading Bill Moyers' article in the NYRB and it leads
me
> to
> > think that literally half the people in this country (the evangelicals)
> > wouldn't care if there was a nuclear attack. They would think the
> > long-awaited Apocalypse is here and they will finally be raptured,
> sitting
> > at the right hand of God. It's why the environmental regulations are
> > loosening up, for a last fling before the end, predicted to happen in
the
> > next 40 years. In fact, the war in Iraq is in the natural order of
> things
> > in preparation for the end of the world. They are absolutely, deadly
> > serious.
> >
> > Andy Amago
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: 3/16/2005 2:54:56 PM
> > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Arrivederci, Mr. Bush...
> > >
> > > Paul wrote:
> > >
> > > >One of the things that make it SOOO important to keep nukes out of
> these
> > > >maniac's hands is that, as we have seen in the past 3 1/2 years
since
> > 9/11,
> > > >there's NO one THING to strike back at. So... if AQ somehow managed
to
> > nuke
> > > >a city in the US, what would they do? I mean what would they REALLY
> do?
> > > >Short of nuking the ENTIRE Middle East and large parts of many
other
> > > >countries [you know, to make sure they get ALL OF THEM], what is
> their
> > > >plan? Do they have one? What IS the strategic position taken in
that
> > > >particular scenario. [my attempt at the political parlance].
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I suspect that's part of the reason behind the idea of making
nations
> > > responsible for the terorist groups that operate with impunity
inside
> > > their borders. But I can't see it as being very effective either.
> > >
> > > First, if it were a coordinated nuclear attack and several US
targets
> > > were struck, there woudl be horror and chaos as lack of information.
> Who
> > > was behind the attack? It could take weeks to determine or maybe
never
> > > be known. If Washington DC were hit, some relatively low-level
> > > functionary could be left in charge of our retaliation.
> > >
> > > Plus we might suspect that a nation DID strike us, using the terror
> > > group as a cover. So we nuke North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran. Then
> > > what wouudl China do? What would Russia do?
> > >
> > > This could spiral into a general nuclear conflagration so easily. As
> > > soon as we were hit, other countries might decide this was their
last
> > > chance to strike us before we retaliated against them, whether or
not
> > > they were responsible. Then when it was over, our nuclear submarines
> > > woudl surface, notice the backhground radiation, and deliver the
> nuclear
> > > knockout to everyone who was left.
> > >
> > > It rockets the imagination to think how one terror attack could
> snowball
> > > into planet-busting. Precisely why nations with nukes should
decrease,
> > > not increase. Five monkeys with nukes are bad enough, let alone
fifty.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
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